• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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    8 months ago

    What a loaded question.

    Outside of the fact that a single cows life provides about 900 meals for humans, and the scraps left over make boots that last for a decade and also feed our cats and dogs. Plus, it’s delicious.

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      8 months ago

      Yeah so, the amount of meals is correct. But that’s about it. I mean, I can’t say about the taste, to each their own, but one kg of cow meat needs two dozen kg of grain.

      That’s about as inefficient as it gets.

      As for the leather, the industry doesn’t like products that last a decade, so it isn’t actually using the leather in such a way. Industrial leather boots last a year tops.

      Finally, pet food is made out of discarded cuts of meat, the uglies, etc. But also lots of cereals, and vegetables.

      So we could really afford eating less meat. It isn’t good for anything. Not for us, not for the other species (certainly not for the cows, that get often half assed butchered in a hasty way because of quotas and profit), and absolutely not for the ecosystem.

      But I guess the taste is all that matters.

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        8 months ago

        Industrial leather boots last a year tops.

        With respect, you’re buying awful boots.

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          8 months ago

          If we had the same size, I could be wearing my grandfather’s steeltoes that are probably a solid 40 years old. People really underestimate how long good footwear lasts when you take care of it.

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          I can make hey dude’s last 9 months. If OP can’t make the cheapest leather boots last more than a year, they are using them wrong, or they should buy high end boots for whatever they’re doing.

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            8 months ago

            Seriously. I bought some dirt cheap full grain leather biker boots 3 years ago; I have given them exactly 0 care, abused the snot our of them daily, and they are still holding up strong. These weren’t even boots meant for working and they still survived trudging through the various slops of all 4 minnesotan seasons for 3 years.

            As long as you are buying actual leather and not “genuine leather” then whatever you buy should easily last several years even if not cared for. Well cared for leather goods can last decades.

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          So, OK, I’m willing to learn: please show me good brands then.

          They need to resist to mud (thick mud, the kind with a ton of suction that will keep your soles when you try and move), seawater, rocks and sand, and pretty dense vegetation.

          They also need to have steel toe caps, good soles (vibram or equivalent if possible) that don’t slip, and that aren’t too hard (wet stone is enough of a female dog as it is), and to go higher than my ankle.

          The best brand I tried so far was caterpillar, but they lasted only 3 years. That’s a far cry from “a decade or more”.

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        8 months ago

        Cows are not all fed on grain. A lot of cows are ranched on land that would not be suitable for growing grain crops.

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          8 months ago

          Billions of trees every year get cut down to make space for cattle pastures, now tell me how destroying entire ecosystems that have been there for potentially thousands of years is worth some particular meat.

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        8 months ago

        Inefficient?

        Cows eat grains that humans can’t digest, or if they can, it takes energy to transform them to something human can eat.

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          we use some of the most fertile lands in the midwest that could be used to grow literally anything else to grow vast amounts of soy and corn for cows.

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            And in those specific cases, sure, you could do more efficiently by getting rid of the cattle.

            The point I’m making is that there’s plenty of cattle raised in places that aren’t like that.

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              sure but a very small amount compared to what people eat. around 50% of american land is just used to grow crops for cattle. if we opted to reduce that, think of how much forest and natural land we could bring back.

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      8 months ago

      Imagine how many people you could feed if we would just eat what we fed the animals!

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        We can’t live on hay and corn. Cows need several stomachs to do it.

        Also, getting enough protein and creatine and other vitamins as a vegan is a hell of a lot of work and doesn’t taste as good.

        Humans are animals, and the type of animals we are is omnivores. Not herbivores.

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        8 months ago

        Guess you didn’t get to grow up watching the discovery Channel before all their shows were about crab fishing and animal rescue. Would you rather I go rip a gazelle apart and start eating it’s insides while it keeps trying to stand up with only two front legs?