We need to do something against this. The EU plans to apply a law for a chat control in the territory. The approval say that all the chats and the emails would be send to the government to do AI scanning to in fact “find the children abuses”, even when using apps with end-to-end encryption (the EU will ask the services to open their secrets keys… we know that Microsoft, Google and Facebook have already agreed to this. On the other hand Signal for example had said that they would leave the EU if this law will be applied). We need to counter this, because this restrict the privacy and the security of the citizens. Even if you’re not living in the EU, you should take a look because that could encourage others to do the same! Please take a look of the situation and make you your own idea of the case. Find out here the votes results for now, by countries and more… mepwatch.eu
Some others organizations criticized the approval, a open letter/petition was posted here : globalencryption.org
PS : I know that this was posted on the community a bit before (https://lemmy.world/post/16093632) but I think this is really important and the people should know it. That’s a really regrettable decision for the population. thx
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As nobody has mentioned this yet. Vote! On Sunday all Germans vote on their representation in the EU. Vote for the pirate party or another progressive party. Vote out the grandpa’s and grandma’s that want to “protect” their adult children.
Absolutely right
VOLT is fine too!
I agree
I was considering to vote for Volt, but I fear, that their approach to save the climate might get overrun by other liberal parties. I’m currently considering voting for die Piraten.
Pirates are an awesome Party don’t misunderstand me, I just like VOLT’s approach to unify the EU more.
That Approach is great. I also agree with most of their core values, except their approach to taxes. Its also great to have a party that is active in different country’s.
Wait, you guys have a pirate party over there? That’s actually really cool
I wish our parties over here in the states were more interesting like that (also that we have more of them and need a completely different system but that’s besides the point)
an open letter already signed by multiple privacy-focused companies and digital rights organizations: https://www.globalencryption.org/2024/05/joint-statement-on-the-dangers-of-the-may-2024-council-of-the-eu-compromise-proposal-on-eu-csam/
edit: also, contact your representation: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/#WhatYouCanDo
thank you
Another day, another stupid fucking government surveillance overreach
If this law passes I will delete What’s App. I don’t fucking care how many contacts I will loose. Matrix it is then.
You know even without the law should consider deleting whatsapp and switched to signal or other private stuff
I would prefer Matrix or XMPP, they don’t have the risks regarding centralization and are thus far harder to censor.
For sure these are better for a more private and can avoid censorship far more easily, you can use Session as well, but the of Signal is really good because of their solid proved encryption. Snowden and others recommend it. Maybe not the absolute best but far away from the worst
Signal is also great because it is easy to use, and works on all mobile platforms. It’s probably the easiest secure chat app to get people onboard with using.
Major XMPP clients now have implemented OMEMO - from what I understand, it’s very similar.
My issue with Signal, aside from centralization and phone numbers, is how it is annoying to use without a smartphone.
Doesn’t need phone numbers anymore
First - it does still require one for registration, just no longer requires it to be public. Second - this still has nothing to do with the fact that desktop doesn’t allow registration and tells you to register from a smartphone instead.
Yes, I try to avoid it, but its kinda ass, if you loose contact to literally everyone you know.
I already use Signal and matrix for certain groups and contacts.
I can understand I’ve gone trough that as well, but you know it’s so much safer to use a more private messaging app, as example we suspect the Israeliens to use AI and WhatsApp to organize murders to suspected pro Palestinians people, based on their groups on whatsapp…
Results of last voting, so you know who not to choose on Sunday:
Well… fuck
In Poland it’s not great either… But I’m positively surprised that 3 guys from PiS voted against it. That gives us 4 to 41. Not great, as I said before…
I’m relieved that the group I wanted to vote was against. I’m frightened that it was the only one against in France 😱
Which group in France is against? I consider making this issue a top priority for choosing who I vote for.
80% for, as in “in favour of scanning”, or am I misinterpreting something?
No, I think that’s corrext because our conservative CDU/CSU party voted in favor and we all know how those ultra-conservative christians vote.
At least it reinforced my preferred party…
Spain has consistently been a major proponent of mandating this stuff, from what I’ve read in the past. I assume that this relates to wanting to deal with their secessionist movements.
That could be the reason. In this case the Germany the Poland and the Austria are refusing the approval
Just for the record, a post title usually lets you know what the content will be about.
I’ve changed it maybe it was a bit too teaser
Thanks bruv!
This is beyond stupid. Criminals will continue using encryption. Citizens are mandated to forfeit any semblance of privacy. This is tyranny in it’s plainest form.
So session, signal or telegram. OK.
First telegram is not private.
And then Signal would not keep his EU market if this law applied, for session and all more independents services they could maybe go trough this law… but even with this it’s a big no-no
Telegram is an FSB cafe.
Signal’s CEO has already said they will leave the EU if the law passes.
