Patrick Breyer, a staunch defender of digital rights, laments the Pirate Party’s exit from the EU Parliament as a blow to online privacy.

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    I had somewhat hoped that my fellow countrymen in Germany would not fall for the obtuse populism of the right, but that is exactly what has happened.

    I’m afraid there’s nothing left to counter this, because voters obviously no longer care about rational arguments and don’t even want to acknowledge the real problems of our time. They make it easy for themselves and just blame everything on illegal migration or whatever - just as the right-wingers tell them to do.

    In this reality characterized by stupidity and false attributions of blame, it is hardly surprising that important but somewhat abstract topics such as data protection are no longer of interest to the masses. It’s enough to make you cry.

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        The saddest thing about this is that the Europeans and especially the Germans should really know better. But no, all the lessons from our dark history seem to have been forgotten - or they are simply ignored so that one can once again live in the comfortable world of simple explanations where there is always some minority to blame.

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            Tagesschau has a graph showing AFD being the highest % voted party all over eastern Germany and second highest voted nearly everywhere else, following CDU/CSU. You really only see green or red in the larger cities.

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              The second highest voted thing is mildly misleading because left parties are a lot more fractured, especially in EU elections. The afd could have 11% while 9 left wing partirs have 9.8% and be the most voted party, but that would be a better result than we have now with it being the second most voted.

              The results are bad, but 16% is at least nowhere nesr a majority. I’m honestly more concerned about the CDU moving closer to the afd and still ending up with 30%, seems almost like many people don’t like the afd because they’ve been told afd bad, but still agree with much of their ideology.

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        It’s not surprising though, the EU has been wanting to become the United States of Europe for a long time…

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      In the whole bad times lead to strong people, which leads to good times, which leads to weak people, which leads to bad times, we’re in the weak people leading to bad times stage. Now things need to get bad enough to start making strong people.

      Only problem is the fascists are smarter this time and are pushing everywhere, so this time might not have nation states on the good side.

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      obtuse populism of the right

      Don’t fall for propaganda either. Left and right are two buzzword used by rulers to manipulate public opinion and always stay in power.

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      I would gladly vote left, I like social democracy, I don’t mind paying taxes for government services, what makes it impossible for me to vote left is that I completely and utterly disagree with the migration policies that have been in place.

      They are insane, completely insane.

      We need to enforce the EU borders and fundamentally change the asylum process, the current system encourage refugees to take extreme risks by crossing the sea in shit boats, the current system also encourage braindrain from poor countries preventing them from gettng the skilled workers they need to develop their economies.

      Restricting the right of asylum will severely cut back on the human trafficing organization’s proftis and reduce the ammount of death and injury in a dangerous ocean crossing.

      It will also allow us to sped less money supporting people here, and do much more for them in their own home countries.

      I am sure I will get downvoted massively, but this is the explanation as to why I won’t vote left unless they show that they are serious at cutting migration.

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        there is good hint of xenophobia in your comment
        you probably need to meet some people foreign of your country and learn they are humans just like you

        It will also allow us to sped less money supporting people here, and do much more for them in their own home countries.

        tax rich people/companies
        these are taking your money away for a good cause for everyone

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          That is fair, I can see how my comment might seem xenophobic to people who don’t know the real me.

          I absolutely believe that the rich pay too little tax, it is a global problem, that has a veey simple solution, but extremely difficult execution.

          Taxing the rich isn’t the be all end all solution, integration is, I am a Swede, and we have absolutely failed with integrating migrants. We see that with migrant gangs in Sweden.

          I could write more, but this is not the forum for that discussion.

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        I don’t understand how anyone can think that migration policy is the EU’s main problem. And I really don’t get why someone should vote for a party that does not share their own convictions because of EU migration policy.

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          Bait and switch.

          Immigrants = bad. Just focus on immigrants being bad, while I line my own pockets and/or gather power while you are distracted.

          But just remember: immigrants = bad!

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        Restricting the right of asylum will severely cut back on the human trafficing organization’s proftis and reduce the ammount of death and injury in a dangerous ocean crossing.

        Prohibition creates black markets. Restrict asylum and you’ll increase human trafficking.

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          That is fair point, I have myself made the argument of legalizing drugs to remove power and influence from gangs.

          When I wrote my long reply I didn’t consider that.