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    5 months ago

    Nothing says “We’re confident in the software we’re selling” like willing to work for exposure in hopes that somebody shills $20 for a subscription.

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      Exposure = They get to keep the data they get.

      Data = money

      They’ve found a way to make it work I’m sure.

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            I mean Apples the one saying it. I doubt OpenAI wants to piss them off.

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                They probably have a deal similar to DuckDuckGo:

                As noted above, we call model providers on your behalf so your personal information (for example, IP address) is not exposed to them. In addition, we have agreements in place with all model providers that further limit how they can use data from these anonymous requests that includes not using Prompts and Outputs to develop or improve their models as well as deleting all information received once it is no longer necessary to provide Outputs (at most within 30 days with limited exceptions for safety and legal compliance).

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              Yeah there’s definitely a contract, but open ai could determine it’s more profitable to void the contract and pay for lawyers and a settlement. Probably unlikely though to be fair.

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        5 months ago

        This seems so obvious I’m amazed Apple isn’t charging them for the “exposure”

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          5 months ago

          Apple needs them just as badly as OpenAI needs every iPhone user. They’re horribly behind in this “AI” bubble.

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      I don’t know with this one.

      OpenAI isn’t allowed to blindly scrape iPhone or iCloud user’s data. They can only learn from whatever data the user submits in a query. And Apple forces users to consent to every single query that is sent to OpenAI. And that query compute is expensive.

      Given that Apple built in a way for GPT pro licenses to be used, my guess is that selling the subscriptions is the real business angle.

      Open AI will get data from those queries, but since it’s a query, it requires significant compute. Paying for compute for the world’s largest smart phone manufacturer is going to hurt if they can’t monetize somehow.

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        1. Deploy a Turing-test beating interface in all Apple devices
        2. Appoint NSA to your board
        3. PROFIT
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    100% correct.

    At the moment there are tons of Ai companies all trying to be The One that everybody will use.

    But Google has Gemini and it has Android. Android has 70% market share worldwide and is offering Gemini for free to every user. That’s MASSIVE exposure.

    For openai to get on Android the user has to install it as an app. It’s VERY difficult to get your average user to know what openai is and why they should use it, never mind getting them to install the app.

    So to be the default Ai on iPhone is a HUGE deal for openAi and gives them massive exposure over the competition.

    Google pays Apple billions to Apple to be the default search engine so openAi not having to pay anything is actually very surprising to me.

    I think the only reason Apple isn’t making them pay is because Apple plans to offer other Ai services in future.

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      That’s a really good point.

      OpenAI is also pushing pretty hard to get partnerships with Samsung. If they had Apple and Samsung, they’d have half of the phones in the world.

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    I wonder how this will end up working. I want to use chat gpt without an account and while logged into a VPN and to have unlimited requests… would be nice if this was the solution to this.

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      My hot take is that the new iMessage features will push adoption rates really high. People in my household want the beta for that reason alone, and I’m having to bat them away because this is a buggy DB1.

      A version is Siri that isn’t shit is also a big reason. But that is not coming until 18.1 or 2. So my money is on text effects and stupid emoji reactions being the initial upgrade driver.