Some Firefox users noticed playback issues on YouTube for several months. These affected high resolution videos only, from 1080p and up. To make matters worse, no clear pattern could be identified.

Some videos played fine, others would stop abruptly when they ran out of buffer.

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    3 months ago

    Oh lol so that was it, yesterday all of a sudden 1440p and 4k videos were unwatchable, it was a stutter fest and thought something was wrong with my gpu.

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    3 months ago

    I have had the same issue for at least a month now. I use YouTube Premium, the fuck am I paying for?

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        I already have an uBlock dude, it’s just I like to support content creators on YouTube by having Premium.

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            That’s a lot of effort, given how many people I am subscribed to. And I wouldn’t say that it’ “peanuts”, after all they redistribute 55% of YouTube Premium earnings, that’s a lot more than what other similar subscriptions give.

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              Would you support that kind of business model if you were at the other end, knowing full well you could be earning more? Then again, this is an age-old question…

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      For your experience to only be degraded a little.

      For an slightly better but still degraded experience they want you on Google Chrome. But remember please use 360p or lower so their poor servers don’t have to work so hard, they even help you do this by default on mobile!

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    3 months ago

    I stopped watching on their website due to this. It’s faster and I get better scalers on ytdl(p)+mpv

    • t0fr@lemmy.ca
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      3 months ago

      You browse YouTube in the browser then use a handler to send it to MPV?

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        mpv? yt-dlp? mpv is a media player, kind of like VLC but more powerful and lightweight.
        yt-dlp is a CLI (command line interface) tool that allows you to download youtube videos as videos, videos without audio, or just as audio files.

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        Personally, I copy the url from the link or at worst the url bar after clicking into youtube.

        Then ‘mpv + [pasted url]’ into a terminal (I use Yakuake as a quick terminal) and it’s away quicker than youtube.com anyway.

        mpv automagically invokes ytdl/yt-dlp if you have it installed on linux or if it’s in the same directory as mpv or in a directory added to your windows search paths on windows. MacOS, just use a package manager like macports/homebrew.

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    3 months ago

    For months I’ve had problems with YouTube videos in Firefox, at any resolution. They would play at really low FPS. Sometimes the player would pause and continue at the correct FPS, but usually not. Skipping backwards or forwards usually fixes it but not always. Another step in their monopoly to destroy competition.

    • Adanisi@lemmy.zip
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      3 months ago

      NewPipe on Android.

      Fuck GrayJay, their marketing lies, and their nasty license.

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        3 months ago

        What lies? And what’s wrong with the license? It is to prevent other companies from taking their source code to make applications that aren’t free.

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          Advertised as “open source”, violates several key parts of the open source definition. It’s really a “look but don’t touch” thing.

          And you do realise ANY copyleft license (GPL, etc) prevents the creation of nonfree applications using that code? Making the app proprietary (yes, GrayJay counts as proprietary) is completely unnecessary.

          I know Rossmann brought up NewPipe fakes on the Play Store as justification, but NewPipe is licensed under the GPL. These fakes were already illegal.

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            If someone posts their source code publicly, it’s open source. It’s unreasonable to ask them to review and maintain every PR sent their way. If they want to work on it by themselves, that’s fine. If you want to fork it and make changes yourself, you can. Literally the only qualification for something to be open source is that the source is open.

            It’s also unreasonable to be upset if they tell you you’re not allowed to take their work and re-sell it for your own profit. That would be like saying that artists are in the wrong for being upset that all those AI companies used their work to train their bots without asking. “Why would they prevent the creation of nonfree applications that use their work?!” I assume that’s not your position, right?

            But as you said, NewPipe is also copyleft, and it seems like you don’t have a problem with that. So I don’t really understand what your issue is with Grayjay/FUTO. It’s reasonable to be concerned about where their funding comes from, but you haven’t mentioned that. You say they have “marketing lies”, but haven’t pointed to any.

            It’s perfectly fine for there to be multiple open source solutions to the same problem, and you’re allowed to have a favorite, but that doesn’t warrant dragging the others’ names through the mud for no reason.

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              If someone posts their source code publicly, it’s open source.

              Uh, no. That’s called “source-available”. Terms have meanings. And from the day the words “open source” started being used, this definition is what defined them: https://opensource.org/osd

              You can’t just redefine an established term because it’s inconvenient to your argument.

              It’s unreasonable to ask them to review and maintain every PR

              Good thing being free/open source doesn’t require that, then? It basically just requires the users be free to make their own modifications and distribute them. No requirement for public development involvement at all, really. It’s standard practice but by no means necessary.

              If you want to fork it and make changes for yourself, you can

              They can terminate your license for any reason or no reason (stated in the license) making your fork in violation of copyright law :).

              In other words, they can take down your fork if they feel like it. Making the ability to fork useless.

              literally the only qualification for something to be open source …

              Again, terms have established meanings. See above.

              It’s also unreasonable to be upset if they tell you you’re not allowed to take their work and re-sell it for your own profit.

              I don’t see how this paragraph relates to my point at all. Is it about the NewPipe paid clones? Because they were illegal anyways (copyleft violation), no egregious license needed.

              But as you said, NewPipe is also copyleft, and it seems like you don’t have a problem with that. So I don’t really understand what your issue is with Grayjay/FUTO.

              What do you mean “also copyleft”? Are you implying the GrayJay license is copyleft? Because it absolutely isn’t. Again, established term, definition: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/copyleft.en.html

              And finally, here’s some particularly nasty parts of the license, which funilly enough you don’t ever see in free/open source licenses (because they’re horribly restrictive terms):

              “If you issue proceedings in any jurisdiction against the provider because you consider the provider has infringed copyright or any patent right in respect of the code (including any joinder or counterclaim), your license to the code is automatically terminated.”

              “We may suspend, terminate or vary the terms of this license and any access to the code at any time, without notice, for any reason or no reason, in respect of any licensee, group of licensees or all licensees including as may be applicable any sub-licensees.”

              • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
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                You can’t just redefine an established term because it’s inconvenient to your argument.

                Agreed, which is why you can’t expect to enforce the definition you like on everyone. The only thing about “open source” that we agree on is that the “source” is “open”.

                I’m realizing you’re working with outdated information. Take a look at the license again, it’s been updated.

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                  you can’t expect to enforce the definition you like on everyone

                  It is literally the definition which has been used since the term’s conception when the open source movement split off from the software freedom movement. It is a well established term with a well established meaning. Just because you don’t want to use that meaning doesn’t mean it isn’t the correct and most widely recognised. Its not that I like the definition, it’s that it is the primary definition and always has been.

    • grue@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      How can I use those while keeping my watch history automatically sync’d between devices?

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        Can’t speak for invidious, but grayjay’s youtube plugin has a “Provide Youtube Activity” option in it’s settings to keep history synced.

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      3 months ago

      It is.

      “This problem is triggered by bad muxed VP9 bytestream served by Youtube, so it’s not a regression on our side, this issue can also be reproduced on old versions Firefox”.

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    3 months ago

    If it doesn’t load quickly or properly, I just don’t watch it, which ultimately hurts Google.

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    3 months ago

    I have issues with YouTube playback specifically on my work laptop. At home it’s fine. It just started one day where videos sometimes fail to auto play and requires multiple refreshes. Even once they get going they often stall out and the progress bar goes all the way back to the beginning so I’ve gotten in the habit of taking notes of the time before I hit refresh and hope it comes back before I completely lose all interest.

    I’d use Piped instead, but it has literally never once worked for me. Videos never load.

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    The youtube ui is so slow I don’t use it, even back when I was using chrome. Thanks invidious!

  • michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I use Librewolf with Ublock and sponsorblock. Sometimes youtube video stops loading or keeps seeking 5-10 seconds forward. However, reloading the page helps. I don’t have such problems when watching Youtube with mpv.

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    3 months ago

    My videos play fine but my side bar is completely gone. No recommended videos, no similar videos, no playlist. Works fine on my other PC.

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    I resorted to having Chrome for work things, Opera for Youtube and Firefox for the good stuff. Divide and conquer, I guess.