Y didn’t god save them
How do you know god didn’t save them?
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Removed, Islamophobia.
Who hurt you
How much time you got brother/sister?
Because it isn’t real. Unlike the very real humans who died doing this and the very real humans running Saudia Arabia who allowed this to happen.
Just gotta give all the glory to God. Just out there getting r done one idiot at a time .
humans running Saudia Arabia who allowed this to happen.
Grown up humans are allowed to make their own decisions.
This is mostly because people are dumbasses.
People who went the official route, getting a permit and going through a company were ok as they stayed in air conditioned places most the time. These people spend upwards of $5k and much more.
People who couldn’t afford it went through unofficial routes and were forced to sleep outside and had to walk everywhere and even some had to sneak into makkah through the fucking desert.
Islam doesn’t force people to go through pilgrimage unless they can do it both physically and monetarily. Also even of the ones that went through the official route MANY of them are super old with medical conditions and shouldn’t have even boarded the plane.
This is mostly because people are dumbasses
Yes, they went on life-threatening journey because “god”.
Allah: “As faithful Muslims, I command you to make a pilgrimage to the desert in the middle of June.”
Muslims: “Yes, O Lord!” [Proceed to die of heat exhaustion.]
Allah: “Ha ha! Fuck you!” [Goes off to hang out with the virgins those guys didn’t get for not dying as martyrs.]
Sorry… just trying to imagine how many people of any deistic faith wouldn’t have unnecessarily killed themselves over the centuries if they just accepted their god didn’t exist.
I think it’s silly too, but isn’t this a bit insensitive? People died. It is their own fault for making bad decisions in this situation, but they still died.
It’s also a lot easier to choose not to be Muslim when your entire family and maybe your entire support group isn’t Muslim. Hell, how many of those people who died came from countries where it’s basically required by law to be Muslim?
It is indeed. But atheists have a tendency to think it’s fine for them to be hateful towards religious people because “they hate all religion”. Logically hating more people makes someone even worse, but there’s not all that much logic going on in the minds of some atheists. For some people, Atheism is just a cover for being hateful, in exactly the same way some people use Christianity (or any other religion) to provide cover for their hatred.
If the guy didn’t say something about “deists,” the comment would be identical to something an Islamophobic Christian might say. Religious bigotry from atheists is identical to bigotry coming from religious people.
ftr; also atheist, but decided not to be insensitive today, lol
I doubt it’s required by state law for them to go to Mecca on pilgrimage in any Muslim country. How could they even prove you really did it? At most they could inspect your passport to see if you went to Saudi Arabia.
What I said was “basically required by law to be Muslim”, not required by state law to do the Hajj
Okay, but this is about going on the Hajj and their nation’s laws cant require them to do that.
Allah: “As faithful Muslims, I command you to make a pilgrimage to the desert in the middle of June.”
Muslims: “Yes, O Lord!” [Proceed to die of heat exhaustion.]
Allah: “Ha ha! Fuck you!” [Goes off to hang out with the virgins those guys didn’t get for not dying as martyrs.]
Why aren’t they martyrs? They literally died for their religious belief.
noun One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles. - The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
I think dying during pilgrimage is supposed to confer similar benefits to martyrdom.
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Well, maybe one virgin and an old slut from Philly.
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But it is this year, which is the point.
Jew constantly whining about people being uninformed about antisemitism spreads blatantly uninformed Islamophobia
“Jew” can refer a person’s religion, but can also be an ethnicity. “Islam” is a religion and not an ethnicity. I couldn’t give less of a shit if you make fun of the Jewish religion. Do it all you like. It’s a moronic religion.
So the religion of Islam? Yeah, I’ll mock it. Arab culture? Nigerian culture? Malaysian culture? No. I won’t mock that.
You don’t choose your ethnicity. You choose your religion.
Jew is not an ethnicity. The “Jew as a race” was invented by the Nazis. https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/are-jews-a-race/
When your knowledge of Islam is 2002 Fox News it would be a great idea to not type comments on the internet. Or at least get slightly informed beforehand because everything you are saying is comically stupid and actually incredibly racist.
Only able bodied people are commanded to make the Pilgrimage once in their lifetime. Nobody is commanded to die for it. Most of the deaths are unregistered people that did not pass a health check.
But this new mythical Atheist belief that God will let nobody that’s on God’s path die is incredibly weird.
When you read almost any religion you will find even the prophets, the people selected by God, had many hardships and many people died in battles and even of sicknesses. God did not give them an autowin and invincibility by being on his side. Would make for incredibly boring stories too.
Why do you think you get to define who I am?
Also, good luck convincing people that the atheist Larry David is not a Jew.
I hate to break it to you but this definition of Jew it’s just a racist way to describe Eastern Europeans. Your ancestors were likely Ashkenazi Jews. Polish or Ukrainian or Romanian or Russian etc. Ashkenazim would be a way to describe yourself. Not “Jewish”, as you say you are not a Jew.
This is akin to conflating Muslims with Arabs. Very easy and convenient for people that don’t know better. Used to be true most of the time, but factually not correct. Many TV shows and Muslims self-described all Arabs as Muslims. In the 90’s and 2000’s nobody cared about using the correct naming for things and racist misnomers were fine. Larry David used to play religiously Jewish characters all the time he didn’t mind the trope.
But most people now understand these are not the same and 2000’s entertainment was not an accurate representation of reality. Just a racist one.
Again, good luck convincing people that Larry David, an atheist, is not a Jew.
Also, telling people they do not have the right of self-identity would be against our civility rules for me just as much as it would be for a trans person, so I would suggest this road would be a bad one for you to go down.
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“Muslim” is not a race. It’s a religion. Unless you think Nigerians and Malaysians are the same in terms of race.
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I don’t understand what you are suggesting.
Are you saying Nigerians and Malaysians are the same in terms of race or are you denying that they are Muslims?
Because I can’t figure out a third option.
Edit: Ah, I see. The third option is that you’re a troll account.
