CBS dude rode on it and did an interview with the owner.
So many red flags.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o&feature=youtu.be
Built with shit from Home Depot, controlled with a literal Logitech game controller, construction pipes as ballast… holy fuck, why would anybody agree to go 3.7km below the surface of the ocean in that deathtrap?
Made out of a fiberglass tube (catastrophic failure) and titanium end caps (cracks) instead of steel.
“Steel is real.”
Titanium cracks under pressure, I take it?
Or is the join between the cap and the fiberglass body potentially more of a problem?
Everything cracks under pressure, I’m not exactly sure what the above commenter is getting at. If the sub was steel the walls would be thinner. With titanium the walls are thicker. Without knowing the dimensions of the material we can’t know whether it was built to high enough standards.
I mean, anything will crack under pressure. The biggest issue I see is uneven compression of the two materials coupled with different fatigue behaviors. I’d feel a lot safer if the whole submarine was titanium, honestly. Barring that, a couple inches of solid steel would be just as comforting.
I would be worried about both. Joining two very different materials that need to deal with crazy pressures seems like a really bad idea.
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As I understand it, titanium is strong but brittle. It won’t bend, but it will break.
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Wow, that is super sketchy. Now I am not at all surprised this happened. Hope that company has a shit ton of insurance.
There was a conspiracy that the original titanic going down was an insurance scam.
There’s also a conspiracy that my farts smell like rancid carrots because the government puts carrots up my butt while I’m sleeping
Why aren’t more people talking about big carrot? Wake up sheeple
Absolutely ridiculous. It’s huge international mega-corporations doing that.
They’re playing a really long game if so. Submarines like this weren’t even conceived of yet when the Titanic went down, it’d take tremendous foresight to have set this up.
An easily disproved one too, as the sister ships weren’t actually identical. Also the recent scan on the ship revealed the hull number 401 on one of the propellers putting another nail in the coffin of the idea the ship is actually the Olympic.
It’s not a great theory. I’m pretty sure it would have made more money transporting passengers hundreds of times over
I find it strangely hard to care about the fate of a handful of multimillionaire tourists when hundreds of refugees died last week due to the indifference of the Greek authorities - and the media barely noticed.
Exactly- this is only news because their rich.
I am, however, enjoying the gradual turn from the search and rescue efforts to assigning blame and pointing out all the noted issues with the vessel that went missing - and the pushback from people saying it was completely safe.
History repeats itself.
We should all just be glad that James Cameron wasn’t on board. Imagine never getting another one of his movies because he Heart -of-the-Ocean’ed himself.
That’s sort of… poetic in a messed up way.
Only if the sub remains undiscovered for ~70 years.
…officials are working to get a remotely operated vehicle that can reach a depth of 6,000 meters (about 20,000 feet) to the site as soon as possible.
The 5-person submersible, named Titan, is capable of diving 4,000 meters or 13,120 ft. “with a comfortable safety margin,” OceanGate said in its filing with the court.
but…after looking up on Wikipedia
…a wreck that lies over 12,000 feet (3,700 m) below the surface…
I think they’re advertising the depth limit of the recovery vehicle, not claiming that the wreck is actually at 20,000 feet.
They probably need quite a bit of margin too if the craft accidentally got lost in a deeper area
It might be best practice to use a vessel rated for considerably deeper than you actually go, in case of some problem in the hull?
And/or it’s just a description of a particular vehicle they’re bringing that was most convenient to get there quickly.
It’s not like they’re going to say, “oh, don’t bring THAT recovery vehicle, it can go TOO deep.”
Maybe they’re concerned that it no-clipped through the sea bottom and wound up deeper than the Titanic’s current location?
This shits going to keep happening as companies continue to rush commercialization of “Extreme” Travel.
I’m ok with sending a bunch of billionaires to the bottom of the ocean.
It has 96 hours of life support, I have faith.
I am hopeful, but not necessarily optimistic…if it lost power and descended below crush depth, no amount of life support is bringing them back.
Someone else in the other thread about this said they have magnetically attached ballasts that can be jettisoned so the sub floats if power is lost.
It’s also designed to go down to the floor where the Titanic is. Was it also passing over deeper water? I’dve assumed they’d release it from a boat above the titantic fairly directly.
But apparently they cannot open the hatch from the inside, so even if they are on the surface, the oxygen will still run out if they’re not found.
Edit: here’s an article about this: https://www.insider.com/people-missing-submersible-deadbolt-screws-airtight-coast-guard-2023-6
I assume there is also no vent or similar to let air in?
Well with all that taken into account, the fact that we haven’t seen any evidence of the sub yet is a very bad sign.
This may be true, but how much time does it take to surface to avoid decompression sickness if they are found? This, of course, assumes that the surface in the same vehicle.
The inhabitants of the submarine aren’t under pressure directly like scuba divers are, they’re at atmospheric pressure while inside which is why the pressure hull needs to be so strong to resist the hundreds of PSI outside - it’s the pressure difference that crushes things in this case. If they are rescued there’ll be no requirement to decompress slowly as their bodies were never under pressure and at risk of the bends (when nitrogen bubbles form in your blood with often lethal results) to begin with.
The inhabitants of the Kursk during that submarine disaster were subjected to high pressure in their last hours but that was because the water slowly flooding their compartment compressed the air like a piston, this isn’t a concern for this submarine as it goes far deeper than the Kursk and the slightest fracture to the hull would kill them instantly in a violent implosion.
Even if I had a stupid amount of money, there’s no way in hell I would pay someone to stuff me inside what seems to be an over-sized propane tank, then send me to depths where the water pressure is so extreme it will literally crush you.
Just…no.
https://newrepublic.com/post/173802/missing-titanic-sub-faced-lawsuit-depths-safely-travel-oceangate
This adds to the picture of utter recklessness.
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What the actual fuck. They built a literal deathtrap
They said it was unsinkable!
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this is a very weird first comment to make and the subsequent comments neither look productive nor particularly on topic. let’s save the thirsting for rich people blood for a topic where it’s more warranted folks, please and thanks.
But rich blood being spilled is the topic. They took a huge risk only to get more resources deployed to find them.
I’m sorry but saying you’d enjoy watching someone die under any circumstances is disgusting.
They’re dead.
Hey now, that money goes to support the families of the people who make shoddy tourist submarines, who then go on to spend that money on groceries and rent and so on, driving the overall economy. The money isn’t really “wasted.” If it weren’t for these submarine tours the money would just remain sitting in rich peoples’ wallets doing nothing.
The best new eco funeral option is human composting, let’s hope they had advance directives to support that industry as well!
“Ask a Mortician” did a video on what happened to the bodies from the Titanic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHwXhUFQPCk
She also did a video on human composting. https://youtu.be/_LJSEZ_pl3Y
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I hope there’s some kind of black box… what would be worse than it happenning again one day because we don’t know what happenned.
It’s controlled with a knockoff Xbox controller. I’ll bet the “black box” is a cassette recorder bought from Goodwill for $3 and then spray painted black
BBC said that this sub (Titan) was damaged last year, and this was its first dive since being “repaired.”
Why do you put a 19yo in an untested death trap like this…
That is the worst part to me. This kid’s main interests were Rubik’s cubes and volleyball. At least all these old guys had an interest in the Titanic and knew what they were getting into.
I feel bad for the kid.
Who even has the vessels that can go deep enough to rescue them? This is the stuff of nightmares
Gabe Newell, yes the owner of Valve/Steam, has an ocean research organization that owns a submarine designed to dive down to 10km, to some of the deepest parts of the ocean.
I feel bad for the families of folks
They are meant to run out of oxygen 11am BST on 22/6/2023
