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minus-squareotp@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up11arrow-down7·1 年前If those people are fine with Trump being president, then that’s on them. Sitting out instead of voting against Trump is helping Trump win.
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minus-squareotp@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up9arrow-down9·1 年前 support for genocide The same genocide that Trump supports, likely more than Biden? If the genocide in Palestine was someone’s single issue, they’d be pretty disappointed if Trump were making decisions about the Palestine…
minus-squareotp@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down4·1 年前Not voting for Biden helps Trump win
minus-squareKnock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4·1 年前Replacing Biden helps Trump lose.
minus-squareotp@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·1 年前That isn’t guaranteed. And the voters don’t really have any control over that.
minus-squareKnock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·1 年前True. They could replace Biden with Clinton. The voters lack of control is the main reason we are in this mess. Only 14m people chose Biden in the primary.
minus-squareotp@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·1 年前I agree with you there. I’m also (obviously) against the genocide. I just think Trump would be worse in every way, including regarding the genocide (and other potential future genocides and/or wars).
minus-squareotp@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down2·1 年前Maybe it’d appeal more to you. But they’ve likely done their research and figured that they’d lose more votes from swapping him out. They could be right or wrong, but they’re not making these decisions blindly.
minus-squareotp@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down3·1 年前No, because the voters still have a choice to vote. There’s no guarantee that swapping candidates would get them more net votes. There’s a guarantee that Democrat or flip voters who abstain from voting for Biden are helping Trump win.
minus-squareCptInsane0@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·1 年前Not voting for Trump helps Biden win then.
minus-squareotp@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down1·1 年前Yes, if voters who vote Republican or flip between Republican/Democrat decide not to vote for Trump, then that would help Biden win.
minus-squareCptInsane0@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·1 年前Ok, but independents who don’t vote for either are not helping either.
minus-squareotp@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·1 年前Or are they helping both? Actually, I’ve read that voter apathy tends to help Right-wing parties. If that’s true and accurate, then independents who don’t vote for either would be helping Trump.
minus-squarerekorse@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down4·1 年前“Excuse excuse excuse, I feel bad voting for Biden so I won’t” Very inspiring. What other emotions do you have trouble dealing with?
If those people are fine with Trump being president, then that’s on them. Sitting out instead of voting against Trump is helping Trump win.
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The same genocide that Trump supports, likely more than Biden?
If the genocide in Palestine was someone’s single issue, they’d be pretty disappointed if Trump were making decisions about the Palestine…
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Not voting for Biden helps Trump win
Replacing Biden helps Trump lose.
That isn’t guaranteed. And the voters don’t really have any control over that.
True. They could replace Biden with Clinton.
The voters lack of control is the main reason we are in this mess. Only 14m people chose Biden in the primary.
I agree with you there.
I’m also (obviously) against the genocide.
I just think Trump would be worse in every way, including regarding the genocide (and other potential future genocides and/or wars).
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Maybe it’d appeal more to you. But they’ve likely done their research and figured that they’d lose more votes from swapping him out.
They could be right or wrong, but they’re not making these decisions blindly.
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No, because the voters still have a choice to vote.
There’s no guarantee that swapping candidates would get them more net votes.
There’s a guarantee that Democrat or flip voters who abstain from voting for Biden are helping Trump win.
Not voting for Trump helps Biden win then.
Yes, if voters who vote Republican or flip between Republican/Democrat decide not to vote for Trump, then that would help Biden win.
Ok, but independents who don’t vote for either are not helping either.
Or are they helping both?
Actually, I’ve read that voter apathy tends to help Right-wing parties. If that’s true and accurate, then independents who don’t vote for either would be helping Trump.
“Excuse excuse excuse, I feel bad voting for Biden so I won’t”
Very inspiring. What other emotions do you have trouble dealing with?
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