Why the fuck is humanity so completely deranged? :(
I have no fucking clue but it gets tiring…
I wonder if we’re actually getting worse or if it’s just easier for the scum to coordinate and to some degree also be more visible due to the internet.
It is starting to feel like things used to be better, like we’re spiraling out of control.
There were more and more mass shootings, the alt right/extremists are spreading like a wild fire all over the globe, shit like this keeps happening.
I mean what the fuck? Where are we heading? And why? :/
I feel like the pendulum swings on the cruelty (at least in areas of the world we pay attention to…), while the damage caused by human civilization just keeps growing and growing. And it’s definitely easier for the scum to coordinate through the internet, but also to recruit and infiltrate minds.
I’m just sitting here being nihilistic, “Après moi, le déluge” about everything, and listening to my “collapse” playlist. The relatives I used to love went full Qanon, so I only have my cat to worry about, now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
if it’s just easier for the scum to coordinate
It is, read through history books. Humans always been absoulte scum of the earth
I disagree with this line of thinking. I see humans as generally good, but sometimes far too easily swayed and influenced, as well as very vulnerable to mental illness. It’s easy to have a pessimistic and nihilistic view, but it’s important to keep in mind that the vast, vast majority of people, if not all people, are victims of circumstance.
My theory is that we were created by whatever most mythologies define as the devil, or altered / modified genetically by such a being into what we are today. The nice people who are altruistic are genetic throwbacks that the devil tried his hardest to breed out of the human race, but he wasn’t 100% successful.
Also, the true purpose of humanity is to destroy the earth via pollution and by killing and eating all the animals rather than to save the earth / take care of the animals. Things like cognitive dissonance were installed via software reprogramming (brainwashing) to take care of the remnant “moral feelings” that couldn’t quite be gotten rid of through DNA tweaking.
If you look at what the vast majority of what humankind are doing (rather than the small vocal minority of environmentalists) it honestly makes sense. Then again, I’ve come to see “God” as a mad scientist / absent minded professor who was all “Let’s move fast and break things, it’ll all probably work out post-beta” rather than an all powerful creator being. One of the many reasons I left the church.
Also, the true purpose of humanity is to destroy the earth via pollution
No. The purpose of a system being what it does, the purpose of life is to consume low-entropy states and excrete high-entropy states to stabilise, overall accelerating the generation of entropy in the universe and thereby hastening its demise.
Humanity’s role in all that is to colonise the stars to do it all even faster.
Silver lining, they were caught.
I made such a surprised face when the torture mogul decided to pose in front of a Trump flag. 😐
this is a thread which is newsworthy, but unfortunately this is going to have to be the first thread we lock because it’s:
- a magnet for people making violent threats that aren’t really acceptable and kind of kill the vibe;
- a thread where half the comments are some ridiculous argument about veganism and whether eating meat is comparable to this;
- and a thread where just generally, the contributions have been the expected “that’s awful!” but like. nothing else besides the ridiculous argument that isn’t even really on topic. if you want to debate veganism and its merits or whether it’s an apt comparison to circumstances like this, please just make a thread for that in Chat or something. i don’t think this is asking too much.
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Well that’s enough internet for today. Geeze. So glad these people are being tracked down so they can be brought to justice.
Well, that’s enough internet for today :(
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Both of yall got some issues.
Reminder that the animals people eat are also living and feeling beings who don’t want to die for your burger.
I would still rather be killed and eaten than slowly tortured for weeks by someone making money off torture videos.
Neither needs to happen
A lot of things that happen in this world don’t need to happen.
Wouldn’t you rather just live and not be tortured?
I mean if we are going down that road I would like human rights for all humans, animal welfare rights for all animals, and for the world’s ecosystems to not be ecocided by climate change. But it has limited relevance.
It just frustrates me a little when discussion of a specific issue gets immediately derailed into discussion of another related issue.
Even now youtube has a ton of torture-adjacent videos about hurt or distressed baby monkeys, catering to the same group that the torture rings cater to.
Immediately ignoring that in favour of the usual vegan talking points feels suboptimal, to me. There’s nothing actually wrong with paying specific attention to specific subjects sometimes.
It’s apparently always the wrong time to bring up what happens to “food” animals.
When it’s on post about animal cruelty we’re derailing and taking away from the specific case.
When it’s on any other post it’s irrelevant and preachy.So when should we speak up for the billions of animals getting needlessly abused and killed?
I don’t personally have a problem with vegans making points about vegan ethical beliefs in general. It’s just the derailing away and equivalence fallacy I dislike - ironically I think it trivialises both issues.
Any post about it outside vegan communities gets downvoted to hell.
I’m glad you don’t personally have a problem with people against animal cruelty.
Reminding people that they are paying for horrific animal abuse doesn’t take away from other cases of abuse.
Reminding people that they are paying for horrific animal abuse doesn’t take away from other cases
Not sure how it looks from your instance, but I now have to scroll down past at least 21 comments of the usual omnivore/vegan debates before I can find a comment that’s actually about OP’s article on macaque torture rings.
It kind of reminds me of how over on reddit any mention of violence against women in the big subs would get drowned in a tide of comments about violence against men.
If it had been part of a contextualised conversation it would have been different.
Any post about it outside vegan communities gets downvoted to hell.So maybe take the hint
While you are correct, this is taking away from the outrage about the hurt animals mentioned in this post.
Its rarely like: poor animals I’ve been eating all my life, I’ll be vegan now.
It’s more often like: good point, I shouldn’t care about these animals neither.
That’s an incredibly silly way of looking at it lol
You, hearing that someone is torturing monkeys: “ah yes that reminds me I should torture some monkeys”
???
Plants let out an ultrasonic scream when their leaves are cut or they don’t get enough water
Most farmed plants are used as animal feed, eating plants directly uses much less.
So even if this nonsense argument had any validity veganism would still be the answer.
I wonder what all the people downvoting think, do they disagree that “food” animals are also living beings?
They think this isn’t the time or place to bring that up. ffs have some tact. Or self awareness at least
It’s apparently always the wrong time to bring up what happens to “food” animals.
When it’s on post about animal cruelty we’re derailing and taking away from the specific case.
When it’s on any other post it’s irrelevant and preachy.So when should we speak up for the billions of animals getting needlessly abused and killed?
What. The. Fuck.
Of course they’re circulated on telegram and Facebook. With those flags behind him, I can just imagine his type of clientele. That’s incredibly disturbing and unfortunately doesn’t surprise me but I didn’t expect something like this. Seems like a movie plot level of villains but here we are in reality and this disturbing stuff.
What the fuck?
I agree what the fuck
I’d totally forgotten about this. Used to see posts about it on /x/ several years ago back when I still went there. Always wondered if it was just a couple sickos or what. Turns out it’s a whole bunch of sickos. Disgusting but sadly not that surprising.
Disgusting but sadly not that surprising.
I’m honestly shocked. It’s not the worst thing I’ve ever heard of but it’s a truly horrifying thing that if never considered might exist.
