• breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    “We are a car company we sell cars. We have machine learning for self driving”

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    “We are an AI company”.

    It hasn’t always been an AI company. They are an automotive company suddenly shifting gears

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      3 months ago

      I guess if you think AI and car are mutually exclusive. I would have described Tesla as an AI car company.

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        3 months ago

        What AI products, except their broken self driving feature, does tesla sell?

        Is every other manufacturer of cars with any self driving type functionality now an “AI” company to you?

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          Tesla has always invested heavily in their software. Just because it has always been shitty doesn’t diminish that it was an outsized part of their business model, especially compared to other car companies

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            3 months ago

            always invested heavily in their software

            So wait, are you now saying they are a technology company? Can you please try and keep your mental gymnastics consistent?

            Are you implying all car manufacturers are now AI or Technology companies? And are no longer automotive manufacturers?

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              Why must tech company and car company be mutually exclusive? Certainly the amount of technology (including ML) present in cars has increased exponentially in the last decade.

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                  I suppose I define AI company differently than you do. In my mind if a company is investing a large chunk of its operations budget in AI R&D, it is an AI company.

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                    By your logic tesla is also a logistics company (shipping cars), an industrial manufacturer of plant machinery (the machines to build the cars), a battery company (buying and investing in battery technology).

                    what do you call tesla? “An automotive, AI, logistics, industrial plant manufacturing, battery company”?

                    Do you agree with amber heard “I use pledging and donating as the same thing” when they clearly are not the same thing?

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          Ugh you guys can be so deliberately obtuse. Yes, if a company makes revenue from an AI offering, and spends a significant amount of their money developing that AI offering then yes, it can be considered an AI company. Just because the feature is stupid or dangerous doesn’t invalidate that accounting.

          Enjoy a little nuance from time to time.

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            What? you entirely missed the point. you are adding nuance where none is required.

            Tesla is a car company. Just because musk says “we are AI now” doesn’t just magically make it so.

            I could form a company that makes shoes. Can I suddenly announce I am an AI company?

            Sure, maybe I use AI in my production, and maybe even develop my own models.

            But its still a shoe company.

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              3 months ago

              Wow, if only something can be two things at once! But no, that’s impossible!

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                3 months ago

                Fantastic reply. 10/10. Really adds to the discussion.

                I hope the rest of your day is as lovely as your personality