Fuck Apple. They deserve 0%.
They should be paying app developers to stay on their platform. Fuck this sick duopoly.
Why does patreon even need to be an app? What value does the app bring that the website can’t deliver?
There are a lot of people out there that will not use a website and only use an app for things. I’m willing to bet there’s some users of patreon on ios that don’t even know there is a website.
lots of people caught mobile brain rot
Ah, damn.
Is it? A native mobile application (not a web view/PWA) will always be massively better as a user experience than anything a website can provide.
People who use apps do so because they’ve learned from experience that an app is far better UX than the website version, and they’re not always right, but they’re not wrong most of the time.
If anything, web apps are the real modernity brainrot.
It goes even beyond that.
With a dedicated app, you go into the store and install it and then you have it in your apps that you then can place everywhere.
With a website, you need to have the browser, navigate to that website each time. And yes, you could put a link to that website on your home screen as well but not many user are probably aware of that being an option.
I know that but I still would prefer a dedicated app because it is easier to manage and use more features of my phone. For example, I just tried it on my android phone and the link to a website always opened a new tab in my Firefox.
Then I can manage the notifications of that app depending on what I want it to notify me about.
I can’t do that specifically for a single app or website in a browser.
On the other hand, I also wouldn’t want to miss a website because I am not always on my phone and, in some cases, it is way more annoying to do something over the phone because I am just not used to it (like writing this comment). Doing that over a website version that I can access on my PC is much easier and convenient.
I tend to use whatever has the best user experience. I don’t use a browser for lemmy as an example.
I use lemmy on browser because lemmy apps seem too confusing to me lol
definitely. i know so many people from my school who’s iphone home screen is just… pages full of apps. we’re talking 40+ apps on average. they always say it’s weird how i use a website for almost everything, and then they complain about their storage space :/
Notifications of new content are nice.
Does this mean Patreon too will have two tiers of billing system: standard billing via the Web and slightly higher prices if done in app. I think if one purchases a YouTube Premium membership in app on iOS, it costs more than when done via the site.
Unfortunately, I think you hit the nail on the head. Apple knows this too. Also, unfortunate for those Apple-sheep 🙄
Background play of exclusive podcasts for one thing. I suppose that might be possible in a browser but playing media from a media player app instead of a browser is certainly going to be a better experience.
Just offer file downloads. I swear the society is regressing technologically speaking (not aiming at you OP)
Every podcast I support on Patreon provides a link that you can plug into your podcatcher to subscribe. I don’t need the Patreon app to listen to the podcast then, just Pocket Casts or whatever I’m using for all my podcasts.
Even the video links are YouTube links.
I don’t doubt that the app makes life easier in some ways, but the website works just fine.
The main shows definitely that is the case for me as well - but there are also Patreon exclusive audio releases that don’t go out on the rss feed for Morning, Somewhere for instance. I also follow shows with exclusive video releases on Patreon that don’t ever go to YouTube and I still get the benefit of a dedicated media app with background play.
They should just take the route BandCamp takes and tell you to go to the website to make purchases
For some reason, some developers get away with it… But that practice is specifically prohibited by Apple. Maybe the exception is for app developers that had a pre-existing deal before the rule went into effect or something, but directing users out of the app and into a web browser will get your app update denied. If Patreon were in a position to make that deal, they probably wouldn’t be catching hell like this from Apple in the first place.
A functional user experience?
EU to the rescue?
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I thought Apple lost this war already?
They’ll hinge their position on the least good faith interpretation of EU’s anticompetitive lawsuits, and why wouldn’t they, they make more money in between these lawsuits than they pay EU for breaking the rules.
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Grats to Patreon and/or the EU for the easy payday🎉
Easy solution: the app only redirects you to the website via browser intent.
That is no good with Apple policy.
App cannot tell user that they get better deal anywhere.
From my understanding, thats also very much not allowed on the app store, and is something they check for.
Get this, they don’t allow that either. There are multiple clips from LTT talking about dumb things like this that Apple doesn’t allow
Apple needs to be regulated
Why don’t they just do what Kindle does? Say that you can no longer subscribe from the application and to subscribe from the site?
Apple has explicit rules against redirecting customers to other sites for payment. I think they have a special deal with Amazon for that wording.
