• qevlarr@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    It’s just so baffling, they’re all from lemmy.ml defending Putin’s invasion. Modern Russia isn’t even ML, the USSR is gone. It’s only “America bad” that’s driving their alignment with Russia at this point, isn’t it? Or they’re a troll factory. Or under the influence of Russian propaganda. Probably people from all of those.

    • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Tell me you haven’t heard of revolutionary defeatism without telling me you haven’t heard of revolutionary defeatism

    • Vilian@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      3 months ago

      True, if thia were WW2 they would be non ironically saying for the allies to surrender to the Nazi, Soviets and fascists, to “prevent deaths”

      • carl_marks[use name]@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        The soviets were part of the allies, and killed 8/10 Nazis. Seeing your historical illiteracy explains your lack of understanding on current geopolitical events

        • Vilian@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          3 months ago

          of course after nzia invaded them, but before that they had agreements to share Europe with the Nazis, who don’t know history is you, not me

          • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            Literally everyone made agreements like that. The Soviets were the last to do it after spending years trying to form an anti-fascist pact with the liberal powers.

          • carl_marks[use name]@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            3 months ago

            You didn’t know the soviets were part of the allies, so it’s futile to go in any discussion with you. Your repeating fascist propaganda and insinuating that Stalin and Hitler were allies. You can’t even contextualize the Munich agreement. Just stfu and lurk more

            • Vilian@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              3 months ago

              of course i know that in the end they fought the nazis, this don’t exclude the fact they had an pact with the nazis to partition europe, also why would be a fascist propaganda if they were the ones making agreements with the fascists?

              Stalin and Hitler were allies

              maybe yes, maybe not, the love for genocide was mutual tho

              • carl_marks[use name]@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                3 months ago

                why would be a fascist propaganda if they were the ones making agreements with the fascists?

                Because fascists like yourself like to share this without the proper context to paint the Soviets in a bad light, when in fact it was them almost alone stoping the Holocaust.

                maybe yes, maybe not, the love for genocide was mutual tho

                I like how the article you shared says

                Scholars continue to debate whether the human-made Soviet famine was a central act in a campaign of genocide,[159] or a tragic byproduct of rapid Soviet industrialization and the collectivization of agriculture.[76][51][17][52] Whether the Holodomor is a genocide is a significant and contentious issue in modern politics.

                • Vilian@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  when in fact it was them almost alone stoping the Holocaust.

                  That’s…wow 💀