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    Stop relying on students to do their work in home. Most of people work from 9 to 5 yet education system expects teenagers to do overtime assignments. And noone even pays them for it.

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      Students don’t learn by just going to class then doing nothing afterwards. Teachers give the tools, the kids need to practice them. Jesus I wish I could get paid for just going to school.

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          Are you actually referencing a mastodon post made by one individual claiming to be a lifelong teacher as substantiated evidence to support your claim?

          I’m also a lifelong teacher, and I think homework has its place.

          1. It allows teachers to assess a students progress and identify issues that individual might be struggling with.
          2. Teacher can modify the curriculum to improve common shortcoming appearing in homework results, in other words, hw can help the teacher help the students.
          3. HW allows more accurate grading, so you’re not just judged based on your tests, your attitude in class, and the teacher’s gut.
          4. As I mentioned, it’s practice for the student. Sure I could do math accurately if I really thought about it, but getting lots of practice in means it takes less time and I don’t look foolish at some point when it matters.

          That said, I almost never assign hw in my own classes unless students need more time with a project than I am able to provide. That said, some student are never happy when I give them a score based solely on how much (or how little) they actually participate in class vs poke about on their phones.

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            Which is worse: bad citation or anecdotes with no citation?

            AFAIK the actual research is somewhat unclear.

            But my (former teacher) problems with “education” are a wider topic for another day.

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        Students don’t learn by just going to class then doing nothing afterwards

        Really? Then why are they going there in the first place???

        And how do you get that juicy job experience allowing you to negotiate higher wage? You spend time on homework given you by your boss???

        Jesus I wish I could get paid for just going to school.

        Maybe you should be paid for passed exams and decent grades?

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          I’ve always believed that fiscal responsibility and interpersonal skills should be taught in schools. Add online etiquette and context interpretation to that list as well.

          Also, who’s going to pay you? You’re going to school so you can learn how to make money for yourself later. If you don’t do your schoolwork, you might end up making less than others who did because you’ll be less experienced with it.

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    When students want to cheat their way through the education system, the fault is not solely their own. Perhaps this will drain some of the excess credentialism out of the system.

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      On the contrary, it will raise the floor of required credentials. When everyone has a HS education, an undergrad degree is needed to stand out. Now that a bachelors is the de facto education level, a masters degree is necessary. If it gets easier to get a MS degree, we’ll be requiring a PhD for entry level positions.

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    I am entirely certain that it’s the same amount of cheating as it always was and the only thing that changed is that AI is how they’re doing it.

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      What exactly was the tool we cheated with in the past that was equivalent to LLMs? What is your certainty based on?

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        Other people writing it for you and the openness with which I heard many other students discussing that they weren’t writing their own stuff.

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          Valid. I never had anyone do my assignments for free and in few minute though. It seems unreasonable to assume that this has no multiplying effect. After all, I have no hard numbers either

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    Colleges having a meltdown over AI reminds me of colleges having a meltdown over Wikipedia when wikipedia first came out 20 years ago.

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    Maybe we need to teach them the kinds of things that AI can’t do, instead of the same old crap?