• catloaf@lemm.ee
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    AI doesn’t grok anything. It doesn’t have any capability of understanding at all. It’s a Markov chain on steroids.

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      …is how generative-AI haters redefine terms and move the goalposts to fight their cognitive dissonance.

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        Imagine believing that AI-haters are the ones who redefine terms and move goalposts to fight their cognitive dissonance.

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        I read the abstract, and the connection to your title is a mystery. Are you using “grock” as in “transcendental understanding” or as Musk’s branded AI?

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          No c, just grok, originally from Stranger in a Strange Land. But a more technical definition is provided and expanded upon in the paper. Mystery easily dispelled!

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            In that case I refer you to u/catloaf 's post. A machine cannot grock, not at any speed.

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      I appreciate it. I’ve had little luck engaging people in conversation about AI research in general. Since abandoning reddit, I’ve been litmus testing other platforms. I’m afraid this puts lemmy at about a 12. /shrug. Still better than reddit.

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        I couldn’t think of a worse platform to try and discuss this topic than Lemmy. The consensus here is essentially that big companies = bad, AI companies = big, and thus AI = bad.

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              You’d think, but not really. /r/chatgpt and a couple AI art subs are the only active ones. And “active” means bots and parrots in this case.

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                Well, I’m on Lemmy myself, so perhaps that’s some sort of an indication of where I prefer to discuss thing with people in general, not just about AI. My list of blocked users is rather vast though, so a big part of the loudest haters are being filtered out from my feed. That surely contributes to the better experience here - or atleast less bad.

                Definitely prefered it over there at reddit, but I’m a man of principle so I’m not going back either.