Always remember it’s morally ethical to yar har Disney content
It is by far the best reason they could give anyone for being pro piracy. Forget the morality of it anymore, when the alternative is signing your life away it would be stupid to pay for it.
we have killed satire and threw a dance party on its corps. How is this whole situation not just a funny article by the Onion
The restaurant was directly responsible for the woman’s death. The husband went after Disney because it was in Disney Springs and the website said the restaurant worked with allergies. It’s more the ghoulish lawyers
It doesn’t change what Disney tried to do to get out of it.
If I recall, Disney Springs is outside of the parks, basically an outside mall-type area with a bunch of third-party shops and restaurants. Disney is plenty evil, but they’re just the landlord in this situation.
A landlord that owns a streaming service who tries to argue that usage of that streaming service allows them to not be sued by fucking up your food order.
Their other legal argument made more sense… They have nothing to do with food preparation done by one of the tenants.
And I can’t think of many things more evil than a landlord
I have less issues with landlords with commercial tenants… A lot of retailers do not want to own real estate or maintain properties. Residential landlords, on the other hand…
I don’t know any other landlords that advertise and vouch their clients on their website.
I bet cafeterias or food courts have gotten sued for the same thing.
You don’t? The malls, outlets, and high-end shopping centers around here certainly maintain a website as well as signage for their tenants.
If someone stopped at a Rest Stop and Baskin Robins errantly put tree nuts in their dish, I don’t of any legal precident making the Rest Stop owner liable.
It’s the fact they vouched for the resturaunt.
I don’t mean having a sign or directory. I mean saying specifically “the BR at our rest stop is allergy friendly” vs “our rest stop has a basken robbins, check their page for details”
You are more physically, financially, mentally, and psychologically safe by pirating Disney content than legally renting it.
I can’t comprehend how they give so few f’s about their image as to even contemplate that in public.
I hate to be a back in my day kinda person, but there was a time at which large family-friendly companies were concerned enough with their image not to pull that shit, at least out loud.
Perks of being a monopoly. Every time someone gets upset with them, their response is just dripping with a “you’ll be back” mentality. Same as u/spez during the reddit third party app stuff.
I am going to be the “back in the day” guy. Huge corporations have never been paragons of virtue, but at least they used to be smart enough to protect their image.
“Back in the day”, I could see Disney firing the lawyer who was dumb enough to suggest such a strategy.
Because they know most people don’t care, and this will blow over in a few more days.
I love my wife too much not to pirate Snow White.
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Watching Mr. Robot now makes this meme hit hard
I don’t know which of these two situations happened
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Someone incredibly and insanely out of touch was watching The Boys and thought Vought was a guideline for how a good business operates
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Someone on a power trip wanted to try to legalize murder for his brand
I’m not sure which scenario scares me more, the incompetence or the evil.
I’m guessing the legal department had been looking for a test case to see how far they could take the forced arbitration clause in the Disney+ ToS, but they didn’t consult the PR department as to whether this would be a good idea.
I’m kind of horrified that someone not only didn’t run that idea by PR, but couldn’t piece together using their own common sense that loudly declaring “Our company is allowed to straight up murder you because Mickey Mouse is bigger than God, and we’re not even kidding!” was not exactly going to fly with…
Anyone at all really
- Realize they bear a large liability for this, and hope to weasel their way out of it.
Some junior unpaid intern was tasked with reading all their agreements to see if there was anything they could use. They pitched this and the rest was history
😊 Well, you might think so, but if that were true then their legal team would have to be unimaginably inept. Even small companies rely on arbitration clauses. A company the size of Disney probably has boilerplate arbitration clauses prolifically spread throughout any agreement they make. I don’t imagine there’s anything their legal team says more often when they are named in a suit than, “can we arbitrate?”
So, yes they were relying on a remote technicality to get out of the suit, but that’s also the only reason they were named in the suit. I don’t blame them. And they know they wouldn’t be found liable. But they also know that people only remember “the mcdonalds hot coffee lawsuit” being about some unintelligent gold digging woman (which BTW is a travesty). So the settlement that they will likely offer is going to be worth far less than the damage from the bad rep of a trial like this.
I imagine the legal team’s hands were tied, this smells like a corporate mandate.
I honestly don’t think they hear ANY liability at all. This would be like saying your friend’s landlord is at fault for your friend feeding you allergens because the landlord introduced you to each other. Like, sure, they’re related, but by no stretch of the meaning of “obviously at fault”. That’s just ridiculous.
If they didn’t, they would have made a motion to dismiss because they bear no liability. They have an army of top tier lawyers, if they decided arguing something other than not having liability, that tells me they do, or, at very least, it would be hard to convince a court they don’t.
Not everything is all or nothing. It’s not that you either are completely liable or not liable at all. That’s not how this works. If you are not liable at all, you should move to dismiss. The way this case was designed, based on the allegations, Disney does bear responsibility. But the allegations only include Disney in the most tenuous of ways. So a motion to dismiss would NOT have worked. But IMO, they are not liable at all. This was a restaurant that leased Disney land that screwed up. I can’t see how Disney had anything to do with this at all.
If they only bore a small liability, they would have just had their legal team reseach what the person suing would most likely get, then provide that information, and an offer based on that information, before doing anything else. You know, like what normally happens when a company gets sued. The fact that they went straight to some hail mary strategy tells me they believe they are on the hook for big money, or will have a hard time proving they aren’t.
Dude, here. Argue with LE about it if you’re just going to rely on your own ill informed conjecture. I have no dog in the race and I couldn’t care less.
Neither happened. The restaurant isn’t owned by Disney, it is just listed on their website as a recommended place for allergy free dining, and they while own the property, it isn’t a part of the actual park, springs, etc. The family signed up for D+, and therefore “read” the terms, including the arbitration, and then used their D+ account to sign up for the trip, and had to “read” the terms again. The whole D+ argument wasn’t that they had to go to arbitration because they used the streaming, it was to show they had to go through the same terms multiple times and should be familiar with them. And basically, this is an issue with the labeling on the website, so would be covered by those rules. Who they really should be going after is the restaurant, if they made the same allergy free claims there. Agreements requiring arbitration are indeed bullshit and should be more limited, but this is proper enforcement of a shitty system, not the batshit insane enforcement it has been memed into.
They are going after the restaurant. The restaurant is whom they are suing. But they know they won’t get much from an allergy lawsuit settlement with an Irish Pub themed restaurant, so they included the deeper-pocket Disney in the suit (which IMO is a less than honorable act, but in a capitalist society I’m always going to give the benefit of the doubt to the person, also you never know if the legal system is going to choose you to fuck with so I dually recognize the spaghetti-at-the-wall approach to damage remuneration).
Even with that said though, since the guy who decided to risk a life-threatening condition on whether a likely not much more than minimum wage employee could or would know if a thing was allergen free decided to rely on a technicality of civil litigation to get more money, then I can’t fault Disney for using a technicality to try to get out of it.
Fuck Disney in general, but kudos to Disney for taking this on the chin just to not make someone even a perceived victim of their greed. I think it’s honestly respectable. They’re still probably not going to be at fault were it to go to trial, but they’re going to settle and give this guy the obvious payday he wanted.
Yeah, my understanding is that SOP is to sue everyone even remotely, possibly, responsible, and the courts will work out who is and isn’t likely enough to have to actually defend themselves. This is just a part of the dance.
You’re probably right. That’s definitely how things are done in building and commercial industries that I know of so it’s probably a standard practice system wide. Sure.
A woman is dead and Disney is happy about it.
I’m guessing that the legal team didn’t have a case, but corporate told them to fight it anyways, so some legal intern just threw some wild shit at the wall and the more senior layers were like “well, we got nothing else. If corporate wants us to fight it, this is all we got”
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Why the fuck is it allowed to force arbitration when someone dies? It’s insanity
It’s okay, they didn’t force arbitration. They decided to “waive their right to do so.”
*Disney+ may cause death
I wonder what the internal discussion looked like after this.
M’fers had a meeting and a lawyer brought up the Disney+ TOS and they all agreed that was a great idea. Corporate nods all around. Idiots.
Just couldn’t stop salivating over the legal precedent they could set
I can’t believe they were only seeking 50,000$ too.
That’s the minimum, they’re seeking damages starting at 50k
Really? Weren’t they a doctor too? 50k seems like it would be next to nothing for what happened.
They aren’t. It’s stated “in access of”. They’re going after more.
Also, the restaurant isn’t owned or operated by Disney. The husband’s lawyers attached Disney to it because of the super deep Disney pockets. But the husband is suing both the restaurant and Disney.
LegalEagle has done a video on the whole thing, here’s a proper explanation of the ordeal.
But for real, shit’s starting to get weird
We may be trending away from the Bell Riots to Starfleet timeline and more into the Corporate Wars to Rollerball (1975) timeline. May want to brush up on your skating ability.
Don’t use Drake memes.
You’ve got the spirit.
Is that Drake?
Comments like that are completely useless. Unless you plan on saying why you think that, just keep quiet.
It’s a very long story with Drake. We honestly don’t have time.
If you can’t summerize it shortly enough to post in a comment, ten don’t bring it up. What’s the point?
And I mean doing it in the original comment. I don’t care personally. I just hate when people make statements like that without any context whatsoever.
No amount of defending him is gonna make him not a groomer. Pls consider actually being a decent person instead
I’m not defending anyone.
I don’t give a shit or know a shit about Drake except that his music sucks.
Here is a video if you want some context.
Welcome to the internet?
Disney; just know that if I die because of you my Wife has strict instructions to mail my burning corpse to Bob Iger’s home address. We will not see you in court.
As someone who did a trial Disney plus 4 years ago, is that TOS still valid if they came and murdered me in their restaurant?
I’m legit asking.
The mouse can now can legally assassinate you in your sleep.
oh boy!
You mean you didn’t fully read the TOS?
I just copy and paste their TOS and ask ChatGPT and according to it, even if I’m no longer a subscriber, they can still enforce arbitration.
