Not a fan of showbiz gossip but I hated having to hate Spacey for being a predator. I love his acting and I am happy I can go back to loving the actor
Not guilty doesn’t mean innocent. This is still a good step in the right direction though.
I didn’t look into it, but I’d say a court/jury declaring him as not-guilty is a bit more reliable than a bunch of pitchfork hungry folks on social media.
No, basic societal conventions do mean that someone should be considered innocent until proven guilty though. Mob justice isn’t a good progression for our society whether it’s torches and pitchforks or social media cancellations.
The hell? You’re happy he got off on a technicality for a host of assaults so your conscience can be spared?! #priorities
Is there any actual evidence, he actually did all those things (without consent)?
Is there ever any actual evidence? Isn’t that precisely why sexual predators are able to get away with it so frequently?
Without evidence, there’s nothing. It would mean, you, me and anyone else can be charged for “sexual predatory behavior” and prisoned for years. While we did not do anything at all.
Not-guilty until proven is a thing.
Also do you realize what this does to someone who’s not guilty? Wrecked career, wrecked mental health and reputation to the ground.
There’s a lot of room between a court not having enough evidence to convict someone of a crime and that person having done zero wrongdoing, and society in general does a very bad job at navigating that grey space.
Being cleared of charges doesn’t mean someone isn’t a bad person. At the same time, simply being accused doesn’t mean that someone is a bad person. There’s worlds of nuance here, but this is the internet - the place where nuance goes to die - so I don’t bother having any expectations at this point.
If you can’t tell by how he looks, acts, the things he says, I’ve got nothin for ya.
Yeah so basically, there’s not. What you are saying is just your opinion based on zero evidence.
Certainly you might not like someone or have same vague idea how the person might be. But that does not mean anything without evidence.
With your mindset, everyone would be able to sue each other and everyone would be guilty. Because hey, that particular person “acts suspicious, says odd things and he looks weird!”
There’s a fuckton more to it than that and you know it.
How about the fact that every single one of the first four people that accused him died shortly thereafter? How about the creepy as fuck videos he posted with insane symbolism? How about the plethora of rumors that have persisted for years? How about the family guy joke? How about the interviews with people before they died? How about the fact that his accusers were male and then surprise surprise he comes out as gay? If it were bullshit it would have been fake women accusers before he outed himself.
Aside from that, you have to get a good read on people. I’ve despised spacey since the first movie I saw him in. He essentially plays the same character in the majority of his movies. Which is himself. He’s worn a smirk on his face, on film, for decades that just screams absolute creep.
You would have been a great witch burner back in the day!
Are you defending spacey simply because he’s a gay actor?
Couldn’t care less about anyone’s sexual orientation. I don’t know where in my comments you found anything that could make you think I would. Also, I’m not defending anything or anyone. I am not a lawyer. Finally, your comments start to look like you want to antagonize and I don’t appreciate that. Good day
He didn’t get off on a technicality, a jury found him not guilty.
Yes exactly. I am a weak and shallow human being who likes his movies and TV shows and hates having to think twice about bad people doing bad things. But everyone seems to consider that my position is unacceptable so I will go back to hating Spacey like everyone else because you know, I am weak and shallow.
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Spacey’s had a bad rep in the industry for his behavior for awhile - he was a well known bully on set, and it was a running joke in LA in the 2000s that if you’re young and male, you don’t get in a cab with Kevin. That being said, I’m not surprised the verdict came down this way - male sexual assault victims are marginalized to the point of invisibility, and mocked when they make a stand.
I have no doubt that he’s guilty of what he was accused of and suspect there are probably more victims. The results of this trial speak more to his wealth and power than to his innocence.
was this the only case against him?
I doubt it’s the last we will see. These are the Brittish assault accusations.
In the US the Nantucket one was thrown out of court but there was also whatever went on that caused him to have to pay for breach of contract on House of Cards.
