• samokosik@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I have just pointed out that both sides have extreme views that are dangerous.

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      3 months ago

      What extreme views are coming from the left side?

      The right side is fascism, the left side is plans to raise the monthly minimum wage, impose price ceilings on essential foods, electricity, gas and petrol, repeal Macron’s deeply unpopular decision to raise the retirement age to 64, and invest massively in the green transition and public services.

      How are those ‘exteme’ and ‘dangerous’?

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        3 months ago

        Exactly those are the views you mentioned. All these are extremely expensive and financing all of them without the debt increase is practically impossible. Combine it with almost no relevant plans how to improve economy and you have got quite a dangerous situation. You cannot just spend money without earning it.

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          Raising the standard of living and improving the purchasing power of the individual DOES improve the economy because it enables more people to spend more on foods and services. They are financed by raising taxes on the ultra wealthy and corporations. The money is already earned, the difference it whether it gets pocketed and horded by executives or recirculated into the economy by improving the standard of living of the populace

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            3 months ago

            Those ultra wealthy people and corporations are not that stupid. If they see they can exist and pay less in a different country, they will just move. Everyone will be happy apart from the country which rose the taxes.

            Of course that rising living standards improves economy but not in a way where you just sponsor good housing for your whole population.

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                3 months ago

                Well sure they don’t flee New York, California and other places where despite high taxes they can still make large amounts of money. Simply because most of development is there. If they can make 50k a month and pay 50% taxes in NY (just an example) compared to 10k and 10% taxes somewhere else (they would just stay).

                However, this is not California/NY and you can easily check what high taxes do here. People register companies in Ireland and Cyprus, so they can pay the least taxes possible. Then, due to european union being european union, they can operate in their home country.

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                  3 months ago

                  We’ve already established that taxes on the rich/corporations that are used to improve the standard of living of the citizens of the country does increase development and stimulate the economy. Do you have any sources to back up your views? Because so far they don’t seem based on any real world data

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              3 months ago

              Let the capitalists flee, easier than rounding them up. The workers will still be there, and the workers are the economy

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                3 months ago

                Yes, let the capitalists flee, so there is no one to pay the taxes. That seems like a very wise plan.

                In addition, every company needs just workers. Management, engineers and so on are practically useless.

                This would surely work very well.

                Hint: You can actually see how brilliantly it worked during 1940s-1990s in the countries under Warsaw pact.

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                    3 months ago

                    So essentially no one can leave then? First you say that capitalists should leave but workers stay. Then you say managers and engineers are workers…

                    So essentially you want everyone to stay?