Is “it works” the average experience of an Arch user?
Edit: Folks, I know it wasn’t clear, but this was rhetorical. I love the passion that motivates all of you to share your personal experiences - it’s what keeps Linux moving forward… But you beautiful bastards need to chill.
At the start yes. But it deteriorates with time. I can’t even update because of dependency conflicts and whatnot. My system is held together by ductape and a piece of bubble gum
Did you miss a required manual intervention on an update? A while ago there was an arch update that needed manual intervention cause of a dependency circle. Might be worth looking up the past year or so of manual intervention newsletter posts for Arch.
Last time I had a dependacy issue I was able to remove the conflicting package, update, then reinstall the package and it worked fine afterwards.
My own system was working great for a long while on an Arch flavour. But a bit ago HDR stopped working properly after an update and I just couldn’t get it running right. Would display very dim.
Eventually gave up on my 2 year old install and went back to Tumbleweed.
I loved all the tinkering on Arch, but I just don’t have it in me to do the tinkering anymore.
Just uninstall the kernel module that takes care of the GPU working properly, should solve the conflicts. You probably won’t see the screen, so I advise to do a disk clone to a different PC and mirror your actions.
Personally my arch install is almost boring me with how stable it’s been - and if anything goes wrong, it backs itself up before and after every single update plus on every boot just cuz, so I can roll back to wherever I want. I’ve put a lotta work into building out all these redundancies I’m happy with, and arch has been so goddamn stable I haven’t even had an excuse to use them. The process of getting a complete install was absolutely not “it works” - but now that I’m there, yeah, it really does just work. My only complaint is that I don’t have any reason to tinker with it more.
In frustration I switched from fedora to manjaro on my laptop and it has fixed almost all the issues I had even though fedora is the recommended distro by Framework. Dunno why but in all my time using Linux (even back to when netbooks were a thing) Arch based ones have consistently given me the least issues even though I’m far from an expert.
I’m also happily running Manjaro on my new Framework 16.
Even the fingerprint sensor works fine - although I’ll still need to tune LightDM a bit, so I don’t have to press enter.
Do you have any tips what you have done further or any resources?
At first the WiFi wasn’t working and is still a bit unstable - like isn’t available as interface after booting and I need to toggle flight mode.
But it seems a newer kernel (6.10.6-10) mostly fixed it.
Also sometimes coreboot seems to take some time. But only every 10 boots or something.
Other than going through the guide on Framework’s website I can only recall having to edit the config files to get the fingerprint reader to work with KDE.
Is “it works” the average experience of an Arch user?
Edit: Folks, I know it wasn’t clear, but this was rhetorical. I love the passion that motivates all of you to share your personal experiences - it’s what keeps Linux moving forward… But you beautiful bastards need to chill.
I say it’s rather a „it mostly works” experience, but as a twist, if anything goes wrong, you can fix it very easily
At the start yes. But it deteriorates with time. I can’t even update because of dependency conflicts and whatnot. My system is held together by ductape and a piece of bubble gum
Did you miss a required manual intervention on an update? A while ago there was an arch update that needed manual intervention cause of a dependency circle. Might be worth looking up the past year or so of manual intervention newsletter posts for Arch.
Last time I had a dependacy issue I was able to remove the conflicting package, update, then reinstall the package and it worked fine afterwards.
My own system was working great for a long while on an Arch flavour. But a bit ago HDR stopped working properly after an update and I just couldn’t get it running right. Would display very dim.
Eventually gave up on my 2 year old install and went back to Tumbleweed.
I loved all the tinkering on Arch, but I just don’t have it in me to do the tinkering anymore.
Just uninstall the kernel module that takes care of the GPU working properly, should solve the conflicts. You probably won’t see the screen, so I advise to do a disk clone to a different PC and mirror your actions.
At this point i’d rather do a full reinstall. Would probably solve my other issues too
Personally my arch install is almost boring me with how stable it’s been - and if anything goes wrong, it backs itself up before and after every single update plus on every boot just cuz, so I can roll back to wherever I want. I’ve put a lotta work into building out all these redundancies I’m happy with, and arch has been so goddamn stable I haven’t even had an excuse to use them. The process of getting a complete install was absolutely not “it works” - but now that I’m there, yeah, it really does just work. My only complaint is that I don’t have any reason to tinker with it more.
It is!
After some time
For some time
Yep. That’s why I stopped distro hopping years ago.
Once set-up it just works™.
Basically like that but Frankenstein saying it.
In frustration I switched from fedora to manjaro on my laptop and it has fixed almost all the issues I had even though fedora is the recommended distro by Framework. Dunno why but in all my time using Linux (even back to when netbooks were a thing) Arch based ones have consistently given me the least issues even though I’m far from an expert.
I’m also happily running Manjaro on my new Framework 16.
Even the fingerprint sensor works fine - although I’ll still need to tune LightDM a bit, so I don’t have to press enter.
Do you have any tips what you have done further or any resources?
At first the WiFi wasn’t working and is still a bit unstable - like isn’t available as interface after booting and I need to toggle flight mode.
But it seems a newer kernel (6.10.6-10) mostly fixed it.
Also sometimes coreboot seems to take some time. But only every 10 boots or something.
Other than going through the guide on Framework’s website I can only recall having to edit the config files to get the fingerprint reader to work with KDE.
Since i use Arch everything actually worked. Scary.