Diplomats walk out on Israeli prime minister’s speech at UN to protest against devastating war on Gaza and latest attacks on Lebanon

Diplomats walk out on Israeli prime minister’s speech at UN to protest against devastating war on Gaza and latest attacks on Lebanon

  • Wolfeh@lemmy.worldEnglish
    662·
    12 hours ago

    including scores of women and children

    This always assumes that there are no civilian men. I get that men are the ones usually conscripted, but… that’s always seemed weird to me.

    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 hour ago

      I mean, a score is 20. I think that means they’ve killed two thousand scores of people. “Scores of women and children” doesn’t really do that justice.

    • AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      26·
      6 hours ago

      It makes for a more defensible argument. No sane person is going to argue that a 4 year old child is an enemy combatant. But a 20 year old male? It’s easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatant and so maybe the numbers are inflated. Saying 1000 people can be interpreted as 999 enemies and only 1 civilian casualty. Saying 1000 women and children is usually interpreted as 1000 innocent lives lost.

      • Hacksaw@lemmy.caEnglish
        142·
        5 hours ago

        Yeah, that’s true, but super fucked that women get the innocence of children and men are assumed to be not innocent in any situation.

        Life is harsh when you’re a guy.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
        62·
        4 hours ago

        But a 20 year old male? It’s easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatan

        The age old problem of “excess males” solved by declaring open season on anyone with facial hair.

    • Evrala@lemmy.worldEnglish
      331·
      12 hours ago

      In Gaza casualty numbers any adult man is assumed to be a combatant by Isreal.

    • Maalus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      12 hours ago

      Call to emotion, nothing else. Women and children “sounds” worse than “people” dying.

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1088·
      17 hours ago

      Fuck the USA, and every country too chicken shit to oppose a criminally corrupt sociopath committing war crimes to delay his own imminent corruption trial and imprisonment.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        38·
        3 hours ago

        wait ok, i’m confused why do we hate the US government? Is it because it’s doing global geopolitics shit? Like what’s the motive for caring about this, as opposed to like, stopping world hunger.

        Like the motive for the latter is obvious, but i don’t really see the motive for the former. It just seems like yelling at a vast brick wall for no reason.

        • Etterra@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9·
          3 hours ago

          As an American I can assure you that there’s no shortage of reasons to hate our government. Don’t sweat it, just pile on all the reasons you want.

          • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            4·
            3 hours ago

            i mean yeah but like, what the fuck is the point? I hate a lot of things for stupid reasons, i feel like as far as the government goes, that’s something that i have a pretty direct involvement with that i can pretty directly influence change with. What’s the point being mad about it when i could be doing something about it instead?

        • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          42·
          3 hours ago

          why do we hate the us government

          uhhhh where do you wanna start. I mean pick a year between 1776 and now. Pick a month, probably.

      • gnomesaiyan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5410·
        16 hours ago

        Fuck the USA government, you mean. I only live here, and all I get to do is choose between the lesser of two evils every 4 years. What a nightmare.

        • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
          30·
          12 hours ago

          If you think you only get a choice once every four years, that’s part of the problem. There’s elections every single year, many of which you have more choice and more power over.

          Maybe if people showed up to vote more than once every four years we’d actually see some effective change.

          • redwattlebird@lemmings.worldEnglish
            8·
            4 hours ago

            The US election system is set up for the rich and powerful to stay in charge. It’s ridiculous that there’s effectively only two parties, and it’s ridiculous that a single person, the president, holds so much power. No accountability. Their system needs an entire overhaul, IMO:

            Compulsory voting Ease of access for voting Preferential voting Lower bar for running, meaning every citizen has the opportunity to run

            • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              21·
              4 hours ago

              The US election system is set up for the rich and powerful to stay in charge. It’s ridiculous that there’s effectively only two parties, and it’s ridiculous that a single person, the president, holds so much power. No accountability. Their system needs an entire overhaul, IMO:

              so then go and push/vote for voting reform, federally and more importantly at a state level, shit like IRV is very much within reach.

              • sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                1·
                42 minutes ago

                I always hear people bitching about the “no choice” of voting, but they never seem to be around during the primaries, when they could make a difference.

          • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
            21·
            6 hours ago

            Elections that can affect things on a national level are still only once every two years. I vote in every election but going off on people who vote for but doing it often enough is just stupid.

        • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
          33·
          14 hours ago

          Well yeah, obviously. If you blamed the entire population for its governments actions then every human alive is guilty.

          Fuck the US government, and everyone who supports their crimes.

  • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    66·
    19 hours ago

    If he is still able to speak and be heard, then they arent loud enough. Every single person in that room needs to be screaming to demand his immediate arrest.

  • Vertelleus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2232·
    17 hours ago

    Cool, but did you stop giving money and weapons yet? No? Then your statement is as effective as “thoughts and prayers.”

    • scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      35·
      13 hours ago

      The UN does not supply arms to Israel. The UN has passed many resolutions condemning Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians, going back decades. They have literally already done everything the UN can do, many times over. They weren’t a governing body with binding powers over where the US sends arms, or who France chooses to support.

      So I’d have to say that your comment is less effective than their walkout, because it isn’t even properly informed.

    • apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.worldEnglish
      582·
      16 hours ago

      The UN definitely has its problems but I’m not going to blame UN global representatives for the US paving the unilateral support for the genocidal terrorist nation state of Israel.