I bought a domain from them about 3 months ago (luckily for one year). I decided to choose them because there were good references regarding privacy. So I started to point my self-hosted services (with proper certications and stuff) which were solely used by myself and my family, to the domain and subdomains. So far, so good.
Suddenly, my domains stopped working. I went to the admin dashboard and tried to click on “Manage,” but the button wasn’t working. I checked the button code, and it was labeled as “disabled.” So I contacted support, and I won’t provide much more explanation; I will just paste their response.
Domains not working
open - created 15 hours ago
Whats going on with my domain and its subdomains ? i cant even access to manage them anymore, why?
Replies:
[Reply #1] from Njalla - 13 hours ago
Your account is suspended.
[Reply #2] from you - 8 hours ago
May i have a reason ? What kind of answer is that? If i cant use the service i want my money back
[Reply #3] from Njalla - an hour ago
We don’t refund services, and your domain has been suspended for violating our terms of service, for among other things, being flagged as malicious by various browsers.
[Reply #4] from you - now
What terms did I violate and how? Do you have evidence? You are not even providing a notification, nor a reason, nor any evidence. And you just go ahead and suspend my domain??? What kind of service are you providing? Are you self-hosting the servers? For the record, I was just self-hosting my own services and was doing nothing wrong. I don’t even understand why this is happening. And if you can’t give me a clear reason, I will go ahead and spread everywhere what you did, including the fact that you are not even refunding me.
Edit: adding their “profesional” response. I assumed they just stole my money and my domain. I’m not able to even enter to manage my domain. They just disabled the button … wtf
[Reply #5] from Njalla - 3 hours ago
Why was your domain flagged by security vendors as malicious?
few years ago I was contacted by digital ocean because they got reports about myserver being involved in ssh attack or something like that. Turns out my old drupal website had unpatched vulnersbilities that allowed attacker to access my system and use it for attacking others.
am not saying that to defend your provider they should have at least give you a warning. I an saying that to check yiur server as it may have been compromised
Good possibility. I was actively checking the security and access violations or system changes. I was not able to see nothing strange. Even the only ips stains the services were always mines. Maybe I’m even unaware, but how to know if these people even tell me a thing.
I’d check https://transparencyreport.google.com/safe-browsing/search because most browsers including mozilla firefox rely on google safe browsing.
The other thing to point out is that if an attacker somehow got root access, they could install a so called “rootkit” and what it does it replacing some of the basic commands like top, ps, … with altered ones in order to hide the malware activities
Yep I figured out ot was google safe browsing . I have no clue why. Meanwhile these guys took over my domain .
Wait, if they suspended your domain, can you even transfer it away? if not, that’s really fucking scary.
I don’t have good interaction with them either, but nothing as bad. I used one of their VPS to hold the reverse proxy for my lemmy instance like a year ago. Randomly it went down and the support was non-existent. Eventually it came back on its own after some days but I had already moved everything away from them
Wait, if they suspended your domain, can you even transfer it away? if not, that’s really fucking scary.
Njalla takes ownership of every domain purchased on their platform. They do let you transfer domains to another registrar where you could be the owner if your account is in good standing but seems like that may not be the case here (since account suspended)
That may be great for some domain use cases but for most stuff it would be better to have your name on the domain registration
Ye, going for extreme privacy like this has these kind of downsides.
Yep they just disabled the “manage” button on the html . It is like a kiosk. Holly crap , yes they reply like if they were selling vegetables in the street. We need to advice other people
Ye, generally I would only use njalla for discardable services and domains.
Good advice
If you were just selfhosting services for you and your family, would really browsers be flagging your site?
Yes.
I made the mistake of naming my emby instance https://emby.example.com
On emby, if you don’t have a session cookie, it opens on an authentication page.
I’ve had Google label it as a mitm attack and get labeled malware three times. It gets fixed in a day or two upon review, but all major browsers block it during that time.
But why are random people visiting your instance?
They weren’t.
Google runs it’s own scans against domains.
That sounds problematic. Where do they detail this?
Wikipedia:
Google Safe Browsing “conducts client-side checks. If a website looks suspicious, it sends a subset of likely phishing and social engineering terms found on the page to Google to obtain additional information available from Google’s servers on whether the website should be considered malicious”.
I have the vague idea it was because I named one of subdomains “linkding” , the bookmarks app, because was one of the last things I was doing on my services.
