• IronDonkey@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I mean, you’re paying them either way. Businesses money for salaries comes from customers. It’s still silly and indirect, but it’s not like you wouldn’t be paying the workers’ salary anyway.

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      1 year ago

      It hides the true cost of the meal and allows both the employee and the employer to avoid taxes on this part of the “salary”

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        As a Brit this seems like such a ridiculous attitude to have.

        When you go out for food you are paying for:

        • Quality ingredients
        • The knowledge and skill of someone to take those ingredients and make a nice meal out of them

        If you’re dining in you also get:

        • A nice place to sit with good lighting and a nice ambiance
        • Someone to bring your food
        • Someone to clean away your dirty dishes

        If you are getting delivery you instead pay for someone to bring it to you.

        The food itself is like 40% of what you’re paying for, the rest is just convenience and atmosphere.

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        1 year ago

        Without tipping their entirely hourly wage has to come out of what you pay for the meal. Thus the price of your meal will go up to make up for what they used to get in tips.

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          Or, maybe, the owners of the restaurant make slightly less profit and pay their employees a living wage.

          There are a small number of restaurants across the US that actually do pay their servers and other employees reasonable hourly rates, and make it clear to patrons that they don’t accept tips. Prices are still reasonable and customers do continue coming back.

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          I’d rather have that. Why is responsibility of covering wages shifting to the customer? And in return the blame? Sounds like a situation those in charge love, since instead of them being the bad guy they get to say “what an asshole customer right?” it’s their fault your take home pay is lower today.

          Hiding behind the customer going darn then it’s out of my hands. Don’t got money to spare. Then they hop in their expensive car and drive to their expensive home instead of them being the ones to pay a proper wage for their employees.

          Sounds like a misleading system all around.

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          Then the menu prices should be raised to pay a livable wage to the staff. If I can’t afford it I’ll eat at home. Don’t lure people in with the promise of one price and then guilt them into subsidizing your payroll off the book.

          Tipping culture needs to go away, it’s not the norm elsewhere and it shouldn’t be here.

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            Yeah, people don’t likes hidden charges or surprise fees. It’s “optional” but not really if you want to be a part of society.

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          And that is how it works in all other civilised countries. One should think it would be possible to work in the US as well.