• EatATaco@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    I agree that they shouldn’t be supporting it. But we’re talking about defending a country against missile attacks, not violating some potential ceasefire by launching missiles for Israel.

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      2 months ago

      They’re enabling Israel’s aggression by providing military support, even defensive support. Not to mention adding US troops to the area increases chances some will get killed or injured, providing an excuse to enter the conflict even more.

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        2 months ago

        I was responding to someone who claimed that by sending tools to stop weapons from killing people, Biden is violating his call for a ceasefire.

        You can disagree with this, but claiming it’s aggressive is just blatantly false.

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      2 months ago

      The thing is that Israel was never attacked in a military sense. It was a terrible terrorist attack, that much is true. Israel retaliated - not only against those responsible, but above all against the Palestinian civilian population. The number of victims is simply disproportionate: the attack on October 7, 2023 claimed 1,200 lives; Israel has now killed more than 40,000 Palestinians (this is a conservative estimate). There is no longer any danger for Israel - and in terms of its military superiority, there hasn’t been any for the last 20 years. Lebanon is only marginally involved in all this. Hezbollah is not Hamas. I don’t want to go too far with all the his. It’s simple: what Israel is doing is wrong on any moral scale. Anyone who doesn’t see that is grossly misinformed.

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        2 months ago

        Zios are in danger as long as the rightful inheritors of the stolen land are alive.

        That’s the whole point of their genocide.

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        2 months ago

        Noone is defending Israel’s invasion here. Your top level comment implied that Biden is violating his own call to a ceasefire by sending these troops in …when they are a defensive unit. No missile attacks, no need to use the defensive battery.

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          What do you want me to say? With a view to the US election campaign, I’m glad to say: Vote for Harris/Walz! The apparent alternative Trump/Vance would be much worse even in this matter. I have no problem to say that because it’s true. That does not mean that you are fighting a just cause here - on the contrary. It just means that your political system is in shambles and that your moral compass if way off.

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            2 months ago

            What do you want me to say?

            What I would love is for people to read the article and then objectively think about it for a second, rather than just knee-jerk respond to the headline in a way that confirms what they already believe to be true, seemingly regardless of what is actually happening.

            All I did was correct the misinformation you were spreading. There are plenty of valid reason to criticize the Biden admin over, no need to make ones up.

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              2 months ago

              What misinformation? I said: Biden said he “criticizes” Israels attacks on UN peacekeepers and - still - he sends additional troops to Israel just a few day later. These are just facts.

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                2 months ago

                You frame it as some contradiction, which it is clearly not.

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                  2 months ago

                  I did not frame this at all. I just quoted Biden and said that in the light of this quote from just a few days ago I couldn’t understand (“WTF”) why he is sending additional troops. Please don’t pin this on me. I get that you are trying to fight the good fight here (I agree that it would be awful for the whole world if Trump would win). I’m just saying that this is a bad move by Biden because deploying even more troops in support of Israel is not just morally wrong (that was my point as an observer from europe) it’s also very bad PR - that’s what I think at least, because I think the majority of sane Us-citizenens don’t want to have any part in the inhumane actions of the Israeli Government.