• psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 year ago

    Tough to defend position if you only consider systems intact today (and thereby filtering out nazi-Germany for example)!

    The US only has made a science out of propaganda (see Walter Lippman & Edward Bernays) and the capital to pay for it all over the word (NED/bellingcat/victims of communism foundation/radio free liberty|europe|iraq|asia/“congress for cultural freedom” and other direct CIA derivatives)

    Its whole shtick is to manufacture narratives to paint your opponent so bad that you appear without alternative. Be it domestically (presidential elections) or abroad (country x is ruled by the next hitler)

    I am not gonna attempt to compile a list, bc i would want have to add sources and I am tired to loom that up. But start with Operation Condor since OP kindly mentioned that, but the rabbit hole goes deep

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      I think what a “bad” country is should be properly defined if this argument were to continue. Are we comparing what impact countries have had on the world overall? If so, what exactly is a negative impact and how do you measure it?What time frame are we looking at?

      While I think it would be interesting to do so, I’m not the person to continue this argument further. I don’t know enough, nor do I have the time to learn enough to do the topic justice. I guess we can just agree that the US sucks.

      Also cool username, its kinda like mine.

      • psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de
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        1 year ago

        I appreciate the honest response and honestly I relate to the sentiment of not engaging in this discussion further as these are typically extremely wide ranging and require a lot of contextualisation, doing this online can be extremely exhausting.

        But I find the question you are raising quite interesting as to how exactly a countries (govs) impact on the progress of humanity is to be defined. This is exactly the direction in which I was thinking to go when I was considering to compile a list.

        Thanks for the compliment about my username;) I don’t really associate your name with anything concrete but I assume there was a drug trafficker from LA who was referred to by that name? I am not from the states so I might not know everybody that has become infamous like that!