• IcyToes@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    The key word is temporarily. How long ago was this?

    Calling people dumb then throwing a weak argument doesn’t make it stronger.

    They’re on wafer thin margins with vendor lock in. The strategy was not successful.

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      5 days ago

      How long do you think fabs take to build and upgrade? Intel was working on fixing 10nm for years, this isn’t a software situation where turnaround times are measured in days or weeks. Going from tapeout to silicon for a single line is a 6 month process after the technology process is solidified, forget if you’re doing it while trying to figure out yield problems.

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        5 days ago

        Three years in and at least one more to go where I work for our fab upgrade…could probably pull off new build in 4 or less not having to deal with production/cleanroom and depending on bldg/campus size.

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      5 days ago

      I think it’s been about a year? IIRC Intel only started using TSMC for their processors with Meteor Lake, which was released in late 2023.

      I believe their discrete GPUs have been manufactured at TSMC for longer than that, though.

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      5 days ago

      Ha wafer thin margins funny!!! Side note you ever watched them pull/crystallize silicone ingots it’s pretty frickin cool to see.