I don’t really like Windows but it’s for my gaming PC. My laptop does run linux. I don’t know much of anything about 11 and whether it’s better or not.

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    OP, thanks for being the sacrificial lamb here. Now I know never to ask a question about Windows if I don’t want to hear irrelevant opinions from Linux snobs. Sorry you didn’t get a lot of real answers.

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    The main difference will be if you have an Intel processor generation 10 or higher. The whole reason windows 11 was created is because Intel released their asymmetrical core architecture in the 10th generation processors.

    One of the core parts of an operating system is the CPU scheduler. This is what juggles all the different things that are happening in the fore and background in order to make the computer work properly. On the surface the CPU scheduler is a rather simple function as far as reading and understanding the code, but it is the kind of thing that a tiny change can have massive repercussions in unexpected ways. It is designed to have a delicate balance that is very easy to screw up.

    One of the fundamental aspects of the CPU scheduler used in W10 is that it assumes all of the cores your computer has are the same. Rewriting the CPU scheduler required a whole new rewrite of Windows to accommodate a much more complex architecture with some faster and some slower cores and a different spin up rate to go from idle to max speed on the two types, along with some differences in speed even on cores with adjacent threads. It also required changes to cache management strategies. This still isn’t fully publicly documented for W11. I just know the way the scheduler changed in Linux and watched a conference with John Brown, the main Intel open source developer who mentioned that the 10th gen asymmetry was the main trigger for W11.

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      Win11 also supports something called DirectStorage which is useful for gaming, but I don’t know any games which support it.

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    It’s such a subjective question. As a result, the answers you get will confuse you even more. It really depends on what type of user you are, and what software and hardware you have. Most basic users will notice some graphical changes, but not much else. I am not one of these people and use my desktop for everything from gaming, writing, music, and drawing. I am perfectly happy with 11 over 10. Yes, it has little annoyances, but then every version of Windows does. Those saying version X was great, are simply wearing those rose-tinted glasses. The perfect operating system does not exist, simply because us users are such a varied bunch. So catering to us all at once will create friction and issues.

    The simple answer is, if you’re going to stick with Windows rather than move to Linux, then upgrade. You will have to do it at some point. So long as you don’t do it within the first six months of the new version of Windows being released. Then you will be fine. The later you leave it, the less time you have to become comfortable with it before you ask this question again about the next upgraded version of Windows.

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    I have Windows 11 on my notebook and Windows 10 on my gaming PC.

    Please, for the love of god (or your precious sanity), use Windows 10. :D

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      My laptop had a lot of issues with stability while gaming. I tried win10 and the issues were completely gone… My new desktop came with win11 and has no stability issues 🤯

      I still prefer the win10 UI.

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    Honestly if you’re ok with a little tinkering you can use Linux for gaming nowadays.

    I fully switched about a week ago using NixOS, so far it’s been pretty smooth sailing, and generally better performance than when it ran windows

    Have run overwatch, diablo, modded Minecraft (with shaders) and a bunch of steam games so far.

    Have yet to run epic games on it but I’ve heard it’s pretty seamless with a launcher called heroic (which imo works better than epic’s own one anyway)

    Only games I’ve found that don’t work are because of deliberate effort on the devs’ part (Halo MCC, Roblox and dragon ball breakers)

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      Depending on the game tinkering may not be needed. With proton most of my games except like dead by daylight it was install and press play

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        Oh yeah absolutely the only tinkering I’ve really needed to do is make sure I installed steam properly (NixOS) and a little bit of jiggery pokery for battle.net games (though battle.net is actually really good, you just give it a path to the game files and away you go)

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            Never tried mint but weirdly enough NixOS has been the easiest distro for me so far, haven’t run into any weird bugs in drivers or my touchpad not working after hibernation etc like I have in Ubuntu based distros

            (Other than the bugs I caused myself that is)

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              One of the many reasons I use mint is it does things better significantly than Ubuntu based distros

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    On a super recent Intel CPU with BIG.little architecture, I believe 11 has better scheduling. One day when games start to make use for it, 11 has DirectStorage and I believe 10 doesn’t?

    If you have an ultrawide display, you might appreciate the start button in the middle.

    And that’s about all the pros of Windows 11. Now for the cons: They’ve greatly dumbed down the context menu, so now you have to click the “more options” or whatever button nearly every time. Also it’s possible that they fixed it a already but when I tried 11 near launch, the context menu took about 2 seconds to appear. Zen 2 CPU, 32 GB of decent DDR4 and an NVMe boot drive so it should be snappy And it’s Windows. I right click on EVERYTHING because I’m not used to the weird-ass non-unix console. Gimme right click -> 7-zip -> extract to (subfolder), not right click -> wait 2 seconds -> show more options -> 7-zip -> extract to (subfolder)

    But overall, Windows 11 isn’t all that different. There are some UI changes, but it’s surviveable.

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      I too am in the “Only stuck on Windows for gaming” crowd. My previous jaunt going full Linux was by far the most successful, but Nvidia’s poor Linux support and performance once again led me back to the Microsoft world on Desktop.

      re: context menu

      Don’t trust me here, or any post giving commands like this. You can search for steps to revert the context menu to pre-simplified versions. You can do the same as this command manually using regedit and finding the correct keys/etc… After this, reboot and you have your menu back to a usable state.

      reg.exe add "HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32" /f /ve

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        I know it’s possible, but honestly, I just went back to 10 because I wanted to reinstall anyway (among other reasons, to greatly reduce my Windows partition size, which could technically be done in place, but it’s nicer when you don’t need to concern yourself with the physical data layout on the drive - I don’t wanna defrag my SSD lol).

        It’s entirely possible I’ll quit using Windows for good before the 2025 deadline even hits. Linux gaming is just getting pretty good these days.

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        Sure, but nearly every Linux desktop environment I’ve tried has been great out of the box and configuration is presented to you in a settings application rather than in registry, where you have to google how to do anything.

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    11 is better in my experience, I like that they added tabs to explorer and terminal

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      I use both (different machine), and find the difference minimal. Terminal has tabs on Win 10, and there are so many better alternatives to file explorer—I’m using XYPlorer now but have used many others.

      There may be other reasons to upgrade of course.

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    Honestly, there’s not much of a difference. Microsoft will eventually force everyone up upgrade, so you might as well, if you have the time.

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    You know what, I am going to let you figure that one out for yourself. A lot of us already pointed out Linux, but if you’re asking that question, then you’re probably reaching the point that you are considering the switch already. Everyone has their own breaking point with Windows, Microsoft will NEVER reduce their ads/telemetries on Windows going forward, it only going to get worse.

    Good luck! And we’ll see you on Linux in a few years.

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    personally I like a windows 11 for my main gaming focused desktop and arch linux with KDE for my laptop windows 10 just feels like a less finished windows 11 to me now

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    It’s honestly just ten but better. Easier on your system, less superfluous animations, and it’s organized a bit better. Most windows 10 apps are compatible out of the box as well.