It seems unsustainable and mixed up to think no one should ever use non-FOSS options for anything.
Maybe that would be the case if we were in some post scarcity perfect society where no one needed income, and all devs were just doing it for self-fulfillment, but I can’t blame someone for wanting to make income off of their work. Especially if they seem like a reasonable person, wanting reasonable amounts for good work.
Isn’t supporting a smaller dev a good thing? I mean, this guy got screwed over by reddit fucking up his income.
Ain’t that the truth. People act like charging for software is evil no matter what. There’s a huge difference between a lone dev trying to earn a living and a huge corporation trying to wring every last ounce of profit out of their users. And there’s probably degrees of nuance between those.
Especially if they seem like a reasonable person, wanting reasonable amounts for good work.
And that’s the important context in this discussion. You’ve got a dev who’s active in the community and who builds an app not only with great features and UI but with stability too. And he has a not insignificant user base that is familiar not just with his work but essentially with this exact app… It’s reasonable for him to assume we’ll see the value and be willing to pay. And he is correct.
I’m personally averse to subscription models, but again context matters. Reasonable rate and you know what you’re getting. And I say this as a huge fan of both FOSS and socialism. I could have easily just let my DNS continue to filter out the ads, but I appreciate quality and believe it should be appropriately compensated.
actually, speaking of the subscription, the fact that ads can be removed with either the subscription or a one time payment is one of my favorite things about sync. I don’t really like subscriptions either, but then the only feature I really wanted from Sync was the ads removed, so I don’t have to even care about the subscription. I wish that kind of monetization style was WAY more popular.
And I only subscribed because the one-time purchase was not available at that moment, so I assumed no such option existed. But honestly, I’ll continue to pay the subscription. It’s still less than a year’s worth of my monthly donations to the developer of Tasker.
What is your take on China and Russia?
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And it’s really great, something worth paying for, imo.
I got like ten years out of Sync for Reddit. I even bought the $30 package and feel like I got more than my money’s worth.
I will rather support dev that don’t already make money by selling my personal data.
I don’t have a problem, YOU have a problem!
No kbin? Looks like we’ve got an amateur over here!
Is there a kbin Android app?
Not that I’m aware of; Artemis appears to be the only app under development at the moment; do let me know if you know of any others.
That’s a shiny that I haven’t caught yet, there are legends that it’s out there somewhere
beyond ? i never tried it how to get it
I think I got it from the playstore
Gotta catch em all!
You’re right, I do. I only have 1 app. What’s wrong with me.
What is your most favorite one you’d recommend?
Thunder and sync are the ones I use the most but they’re almost all good, if one has a bug I just switch lol
Summit is so underrated
I am really enjoying Sync so far. It’s a great Lemmy client.
Love Connect
I was starting to think I was the only one. This is the first I’ve seen someone else mention it.
Love connect
Me love connect too
I think it’s because it’s kind of irrelevant to the discussion.
Connect:
- is completely free - no ads
- but not FOSS
It’s never going to be featured in general FOSS Team depictions or discussions.
It’s my new RiF.
Me too, but for some reason it makes my phone run hot
Sync will blast your phone then, probably, if Connect with no spying runs hot.
Connect: Am I a joke to you?
All these shit posts are fun, but why is connect a red haired step child all the time? Any legit arguments against it? Has room for improvement, but it’s the best I’ve found thus far.
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The only thing I didn’t like about connect was for image loading. When I click on an image it is blurry and comes to clarity. Loading is an issue. I don’t know if there is any settings for it inside the app. Whereas in sync it loads perfectly fine for me.
That pill bottle was ripped open and I snorted all that sync as soon as it was refilled.
Yup. I had $5 of Google opinion rewards money saved, so it was only 15ish out of the bank account. I work full time… I think I’ll be fine. Plus honestly, the dude worked hard creating a fantastic app. He deserves to be rewarded for that.
Syncpissers act like a drug addict cult.
If it gets people to stop using Reddit, it works
Infinity is going to be great once everything is properly supported!
Yeah second that. I’m just waiting for community blocking to be implemented, user blocking is there but it’s not working right now.
Any news if it’s coming to the Play Store?
As far as I know, that’s the plan. They just haven’t had an initial non-alpha/beta release yet since the app is still quite unfinished (references to Reddit, certain menus just error out, etc.)
You usually want to have a product that is kind of working when you ship it to normies
Lemmy with choices. Lemmy wins
Just wait until Boost comes out…
Infinity for lemmy just dropped in F-droid. Hello old friend…glad you’ve arrived
Hmm, can’t find it on fdroid, do I need to add a repo?
I think the version on repo is older than the git version
It’s just a version number mixup. The repo version is indeed the latest. More here: !infinityforlemmy@lemdro.id
It’s specifically on the IzzyOnDroid repo, instructions here:
Thanks! Just grabbed it. It is my favorite so far, probably cause I used infinity on Reddit.
Infinity
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I was a user of RiF, RedReader and Infinity. Infinity when it gets out of alpha, is going to be insane.
Sync was not even close to these, and I hated the v20 fat Material UI look, stuck to v18 till it stopped working.
How is Sync so much smoother and faster than others?
A decade of development and optimization vs a couple of weeks/months.
Shouldn’t Infinity have the same polish then? I am a Software Engineer (not front-end though) and I’d be fascinated to learn the technical differences.
- It’s not being developed for that long
- It’s a different developer who needs to get familiar with the code
- He’s doing it in his free time unlike the Sync dev
I’m using infinity and it does have the polish. I don’t get the fuss about “tHe OtHeR aPpS dOn’T hAvE tHe sMoOtHnEsS!!1!11!”
I’m juggling between both and Infinity is definitely less polished. From how reliable the gestures are for going back from comments to posts vs downvoting them, to returning to the same position on a post if you back out to go back in, to the general UI options and settings pages.
I have both Sync and Infinity (and Voyager) installed side by side and Infinity takes significantly longer to load.
Have you updated it? The latest version solves the loading problem
It’s not smoothness but bugs. It’s still a alpha
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I’m on Jerboa and downloaded/installed sync yesterday. As a former RIF user, I don’t have a horse in this race. I am more familiar with Jerboa, but find the overall feel of both (admittedly, without a lot of use, to be pretty comparable).
That said, I kind of like some of the ideas in Jerboa more? For example, tap to minimize comments and their children on Jerboa is quite a bit faster. I’m kind of sad that both make selecting some of the text in a comment hard and miss the RIF collapse/expand button. Jerboa also matches the font size of everything else in my UI better than Sync. For example, the font size of this reply and my keyboard are the same in Jerboa. In Sync the in-app font size is quite a bit smaller.
At the end of the day, I think that both apps are going to be largely comparable for a fairly casual user like me. I bet both offer more functionality than I’m using, but so far I don’t feel like I’m missing anything.
Just an FYI, you can change the “tap to minimize comments and their children” faster in the settings for sync. Same with font size
That’s what I like about sync the most, you can customize it to a T.
Thanks, will have to customize both and a/b it for a while.
I no longer have an Android so idk how the new Sync is, but the version for Reddit was extremely customizable and did have option to disable tap to minimize and give you a button instead. I used Sync daily for nearly 10 years and it’s by far the best experience I’ve had
Thanks for the info, I will have to dig for that option. Part of the reason why I asked to see what I was missing :)
Ask for a settings link in their community. That way you won’t have to blindly search the settings.
Settings shortcut: Comment options > Single click to hide comment
Font typeface and relative size options:
Thanks!
My horse is Boost but that one is still in its starting gate unfortunately…
During my reddit days I used boost and sync interchangeably. Because they’re so similar. But the last app I used before leaving reddit was boost.
Now I’m using Voyager and infinity. I have arctius but it gets less usage.
I also install and cycle through all the available android apps. And so far amongst the non reddit apps. Connect and lift off were the best, summit is nearly there, thunder can surpass summit of the slow loading and browsing problem is resolved.
I honestly couldn’t stand Jerboa personally back when I used it so for me it’s nothing like sync (which is my favourite app so far even on the free version), but maybe Jerboa has improved since I left.
It was definitely buggy as hell if thats what you mean. But yeah it’s improved and I don’t have issues with anything anymore.
I used jerboa for last few months, but I got sync the other day, and it is very smooth but I’m really missing certain things from jerboa I found super intuitive. Also in sync I can’t seem to highlight, copy, paste from a posted comment…perhaps that’s a paid feature only? Also no post creation is kinda lame, and I hope that is not behind a pay wall too. …I don’t mind paying guy for his work, but I can’t afford it.
I was also a RiF user (:
Should be this option when you tap a comment and hit the triple dot button.
In RIF you could tap-hold on the text to select it since they had a dedicated button for collapse.
There is a setting to select text on long press on Sync. Sync is extremely customizable.
Yeah that option is only available for posts on sync unfortunately.
But a neato system wide thing with Android is now you can use recents to select text on any app. It’s so convenient.
Huge sync fan and pro user for many years now but I couldn’t get over the subscription and especially the one off cost, it’s just too much.
Been using infinity for reddit as soon as sync went down and it’s easily my favourite app out of all that’s available but it’s not without it’s downsides, at least to me. So I’ll happily use inifity for lemmy from now on, it even seems to run better then the reddit app lol.
Same here. It was my second favorite Reddit client (after Boost, and, for a while, Dash), but I feel he priced himself right out of the market. I’m waiting to see what Boost for Lemmy has to offer and at what cost.
I never really warmed up to Infinity for Reddit, but I’ll give it another shot. Connect and LiftOff aren’t bad either for being this early in development and Voyager just came out swinging.
I just paid for cheapest Sync Beta when I had Reddit, and I loved it… But $30 is too expensive. $5 seems more reasonable. And now I am addicted to using Jerboa.
Yeah that’s what I mean, there’s too many good competition out their right now that don’t offer ads on top of lemmy not giving ads in the first place.
inifinity supremacy
