The city of Bountiful, Utah voted to build a $48 million fiber network to provide affordable gigabit broadband for its residents and businesses. Regional internet providers Comcast and CenturyLink opposed the plan and tried to force a public vote through a taxpayer group they fund. However, communities often build their own networks because existing options are inadequate. Data shows that community-owned networks provide better, faster, cheaper service than monopolies. While big internet providers claim community networks are a boondoggle, they are just another business plan that often succeeds due to quality proposals and local accountability. Comcast and CenturyLink did not want to provide the high-speed internet Bountiful needed, but also tried to block the city from doing so itself.


You love to see it. Do you have community Internet available where you live?

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    In a sane country, the mere attempt at blocking the establishment of a competitor would have been grounds for a Ma Bell-style dissection of both companies.

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      I used to live in Bountiful so I believe I can give some context here.

      There was another fiber company (Utopia) that expanded to much of the area but each city had to basically join in and this was years ago. The city right next to Bountiful, Centerville had this fiber connection expanded while Bountiful never joined in and you were forced to use Comcast mostly. But Bountiful has always been a bit different compared to other cities in Utah as they also had city power instead of going through Rocky Mountain Power.

      This is Bountiful being Bountiful going for community based utilities.

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    We taxpayers built a municipal fiber to house broadband in Longmont Colorado. Stable service, one of the fastest in the nation and inexpensive.

    I love it when a telecom asks me to"upgrade" to their service. It messes up their script when I ask them if they can beat 1 gig up and down for $45.

    This is the way competition should work. Some things private companies do better, other things the government can do better. Let them hash it out in the market without loading the dice.

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      Private ISPs could do it better if they weren’t largely all monopolies. The US average internet speed is a fraction of most other developed countries mostly because of them.

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        Some of the best internet in the world is in Romania, where just by pure chance it’s all private but with the government owning the last mile. That’s how it should be, companies are only effective if there is an effective market keeping them that way.

        Monopolies should be busted, natural monopolies should be either state owned or very tightly regulated including the prices as there is no true price discovery when there is no competition.

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        Shrug maybe they could. They have yet to prove it in the real world in the US, as you mentioned.

        I like that my ISP has no profit motive and is driven solely by customer/taxpayer satisfaction.

        I wouldn’t like it if it became a political football, but so far so good. I think its safe for now because it is the same network used by the fire and police departments. Comcast really tried to kill it off.

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    My area is stuck with the illusion of choice between Comcast cable and AT&T DSL.

    That’s wonderful news for Bountiful. Quite a $48m middle finger to these monopolies.

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    This is the way. I want all places and all businesses to have healthy competitors. Businesses should not be allowed to acquire other businesses unless they have been operating in losses for at least 5 years. That’s how all this monopolistic bullshit will stop.

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      If you’re not careful, that’ll incentivize competing companies to collude with or acquire suppliers to drive up prices for competitors. I know that wasn’t the thought behind the suggestion, but there’s always someone there to break the spirit of the law, if not the word. And there’s always people breaking the word of the law.

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        Yeah figured there would be a way for corporate greed to fuck over any regulation. Can you think of any amendments to my proposition that would prevent this?

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          Huh. It’s tricky, isn’t it?

          Suggestion: Business laws preclude collusion between competitive businesses. Result: “No, Senator, even though our companies sell the same items made in the same factories with the same SKUs, for the purposes of this conversation we target different markets even though our own sales data proves this isn’t the case.”

          Suggestion: CEOs must sacrifice a child every time they make an acquisition. Result: “CEO of Globoco announces acquisition of struggling orphanage.”

          Suggestion: Airtight laws that force everyone to play fair and pay their way. Result: Billionaires give handjobs to politicians and get the law neutered in return.

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    A fitting name for a beautiful outcome.

    I wish them bountiful data transfers without Telco trashiness.

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    They are very lucky to have this work out well for them. So many other communities are lucky to have broad support for infrastructure upgrades.

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    In México it’s kind of weird. We certainly have competition, but there are major leaders like: Telmex, izzi, Megacable and Totalplay. They are mostly mediocre, but they’ll try to outpace their competition every time they can. There are jobs just for advertisement where people move from sector to sector leaving pamphlets and trying to convince you to change your service. The problem is that they usually buy competitors to improve their infrastructure. For example, izzi bought part of Axtel, which to me was the best service provider in Nuevo León, so we moved to Totalplay the next month after the acquisition.

    They always have offers and will offer you ‘better’ packages to convince you, sometimes matching the same price just so they gain a new customer (commissions are also an incentive for workers). Recently the government announced a new service provided by our federal energy commission (CFE) which aims to provide free internet in rural and public places and paid mobile data plans. More competition is always welcomed.

    Gotta say that our Federal Telecommunications Office sometimes does its job and protects you against bad-faith movements like ISPs blocking you from moving and/or using other methods that are not approved, but no public services have a clean record. Still, at least here I’m seeing some progress.