If Google is going to turn Android into iPhone, why tf I shouldn’t get an iPhone itself?
If Google is going to turn Android into iPhone,
It’s not. The change is definitively for the worse but still a far cry from Apple where you cannot just download an app off the internet and install it which you can even on Android 15, the permission management is just worse in such a case.
Also, surely community ROMs will probably change this.
why tf I shouldn’t get an iPhone itself?
Why TF would it be a benefit over Android? Still worse compatibility, still more expensive, still no innovation.
Android has been getting worse and worse every iteration. Are you asking me to wait until it is an identical clone of iOS?
Also, surely community ROMs will probably change this.
I don’t have time or desire to fiddle with it, just like mods for Bethesda games. It should not be acceptable to shrug at enshittification and hope some volunteers fix it.
Android has been getting worse and worse every iteration.
Android added seamless background updates from 3rd party sources a while back. That’s an objective improvement.
Are you asking me to wait until it is an identical clone of iOS?
I don’t ask anything of you. If you are such a big Apple fan, just get an iPhone and stop complaining.
If you are such a big Apple fan
I’m not but feels like Google is.
Triggered much?
I don’t understand why you are being downvoted. that is simply the truth.
I have been using an iphone 12 pro for the past 3 weeks ,while my pixel 6 is getting its battery replaced and it’s been painful.
i’m missing a lot of apps, the ones I do find are limited or asking for monthly subscriptions.
i am unable to play a downloaded mp3 unless i go through hoops&hurdles .
i am no longer able to watch a youtube video without ads (unless I do 3 steps of passing them to adguard), or using sponsorblock ( i am on ios 18.2, otherwise I would have jail broken it to oblivion).
android is simpy better in terms of freedom. IF or when it’ll become a locked garden like ios, it’ll truly be a sad day for the mobile world.
i’m missing a lot of apps, the ones I do find are limited or asking for monthly subscriptions.
What apps? Are they all from the Play store?
i am unable to play a downloaded mp3 unless i go through hoops&hurdles .
You can download the MP3 and play it in VLC. It’s not difficult.
i am no longer able to watch a youtube video without ads
Brave browser on iOS will block YT ads, but I’m guessing you’re not using the official YT client on your android, so that’s a moot point.
android is simpy better in terms of freedom.
But not better in keeping your data private.
Also, is the shift key broken on your phone?
Apple where you cannot just download an app off the internet and install it
You can though. I have multiple side loaded apps on my iPhone. Apple just makes it a pain in the butt.
Apple just makes it a pain in the butt.
And on Android it’s way easier, so claims that Android is becoming like iOS is baseless propaganda.
POV: You’re Google and think EU didn’t fine you enough lately.
“Cost of doing business”
Not really with the huge EU fines. Google eventually does what EU wants, though it takes a while because EU is fucking slow.
I don’t think it’s quite a bad as the title implies, though I wonder how long this slow process of locking down Android will
containedcontinue for. Hopefully the EU demands from the likes of Epic will stop too much control being taken away from the user.Is control really taken away? It seems as though it simply added a couple steps to help people avoid giving default permissions to bad actors.
Yeah that’s the thing, as an isolated change it seems like a good step for security, but I’m concerned it could be part of a larger frog-boiling.
This is why I decided to not use Google services this Graphene install. I have zero doubt Google is going to try and lock down the ability to use anything outside of the PlayStore in an IOS type move. Just hope a better Linux based phone gets done quickly because I’m not sure how many iterations of alternate Android OS generations will be able to exist as they lock things down.
I’m holding on to mine until a Linux phone comes Along. If not, you know what? Fuck it. I’m not replacing my phone with some spyware OS Android. Fuck that shit.
Sideloading is the only reason i use android over ios…
Ironically sideloading is pretty easy on iOS nowadays
But if you need notifications Gl and gl with apple removing the app
Same
all it does is prevent sideloaded apps from having access to sensitive permissions by default, which is a good thing.
True, but if it’s good for users, it should be the rule for ALL apps
Personally, I like the first one and wouldn’t use an option to automatically give those permissions to all apps.
Being a power user doesn’t make anyone immune from malware, it just needs to pass some sniff tests. It was by luck that that backdoor in the Linux kernel was found and it’s naive to believe every single malware app is going to be obvious with unrealistic promises and/or bad grammar and spelling. Permissions requests are a clue that an app is doing something it shouldn’t be. And Facebook is considered trusted by many despite an insider even confirming the “talk about something near your phone and fb will advertise it to you” being real.
When you download an app, unless you either wrote it yourself (including all libraries) or have checked the source for open source apps (again including libraries), you can only guess at what it is really doing. And just because an app does what it claims to do doesn’t mean it isn’t doing anything else, so the “well, it does work” test isn’t a great security test.
For the app developers being able to block side loading, it says it uses meta data to enforce that. Couldn’t modders just modify that meta data so that it doesn’t realize X’ app is actually a modified X app? It would need to do something more complex than a checksum or hash to detect it’s the same app.
I mean, I love “fuck Google” bandwagons, but either I’m missing something or this one doesn’t seem like that big of a deal.
despite an insider even confirming the “talk about something near your phone and fb will advertise it to you” being real
When was this‽
Sometime in the last couple of years iirc, though I’m having trouble finding it, what with all of the articles about “it might look like this is happening but Facebook insists it’s not”.
Let me know if you do find anything as I’m very keen to hear the inside scoop. It always seemed like nonsense to me as it would be so easy to prove (unexpected mic access, large amounts of data or CPU usage, actual recreation in test conditions) but all the claims (that I’ve seen) are very anecdotal.
Anything short of “it’s your device, it obeys you” is theft.
Wait, am I to understand they’re intending on making it that you cannot just install any apk you choose because it’s your phone and your business? Is that going to be no longer possible?
If you were to read the article you’d find that sideloaded apps will have restricted permissions that the user will have to un-restrict one by one.
Ewww. Such fucking useless imposition of restrictions that should be the user’s decision. Like almost everything else in technology nowadays where control is being taken away from the user.
I’m only ever going to use devices that I can put whatever custom ROM I want on or that natively supports the options I want.
As long as the general public just bends over and accepts this shit, they’ll keep doing stuff like this.
Will the permissions still be allowable by goinv to the app info page from the settings, clicking the 3 dot menu in the corner and taping to allow restricted settings?
Now I’m actually glad I’m stuck on Android 13.
The pros for Android is sadly gone :(
For what it’s worth, iOS sure has a lot of cons.
- Camera app has icons at top of screen to control things like flash, but to adjust all the settings like “flash always on” you have to tap an arrow at the top, that then exposes another second flash control at the bottom with the same icon for the full menu.
- Music app has a checkbox in albums and playlists that when tapped brings up a menu to delete your music, wat?
- eSIM-only is terrible, cell service falls apart from time to time and you have to go deploy a new eSIM to make your phone be a phone again.
- Dual-SIM support is convoluted. You’ll find yourself accidentally calling people on the wrong SIM until you manually configure every. one. of. your. contacts. to use the line of your choosing.
- Touch is anemic, especially if using a screen protector. Try to take that photo? It will be zero or three photos, thanks!
- Their swipe UI is barbaric, difficult, and mostly stupid, twitch your finger wrong and you go directly back to the previous app, or go into app switcher view, or nothing happens. Trying to “go home” you’re basically trying to give it an orgasm with all the up-swipes.
- Missing common software buttons like Android’s back/app switch/home buttons means you’re constantly tapping at the very top, then the very bottom, or trying to use the back-swipe gesture, the UX is maddeningly inconsistent.
- Left/middle swipe brings down notification drawer, right swipe brings down control center. Not nearly as consistent a behavior as swipe down once, or twice, for the respective drawers in Android.
- New AI junk has added menus in settings for “Apple Intelligence & Siri” to every. single. app. that you have to switch 3 switches off per app to disable. Even if you don’t have their AI crap installed.
- The silly FaceID waste of space dent makes it so you can’t see all icons like “am I on a VPN or not? Gotta check one of those top drawers to find out.”
- Lack of in-screen fingerprint sensor and use of FaceID makes the phone unlock on you without intent if your face is near and it wakes for a notification, and also not unlock when you actually want to use it, in general.
- The screen randomly wakes during phone calls if you’re using a headset and nowhere near the phone and just stays on for the duration of your lock timeout unless you manually force it to sleep, and then it’ll just wake again.
- Trying to swipe out of active phone calls to get to the lock screen or apps will take multiple swipes dangerously close to the call hangup button, godspeed!
Those are just the things I can recall off the top of my head.
We need more mobile OSes. This duopoly is pure stagnation.
Extra cons:
Sidelining is not a option(yes you can do sideloady way but it will get deleted later the sideloaded and libre app support (like a invidious client for ios)
