Can I install my bank app on it yet?
I remember having problems with attestation in the past.
What about full application backups?
I’ve got a few offline apps, I’d like to transfer the data to/from. However, I thought grapheneOS needed the application developer to “approved” this backup/restore method - or you needed root (which invalidated attestation)… I don’t recall which it was (but I really miss titanium backup).
Wow, this is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
Original, I thought “hey, everything will work”… but then I started to look into the details. For example, Revolut, it works, then it doesn’t work (due to attestation), then works (after people complain).
I really need to ask myself, if this is the kind of experience I want with my daily driver. On the other hand, I know this is just Google strong arming me into their walled garden. Man, I really hate this dystopian future.
And as a follow up question to this, are there any container apps to run those apps that won’t work in a way that they think they are running on stock android?
No, it doesn’t. The sandboxing ensures that the Google services have none of the broad access to the operating system they have on a normal Android. For example Google won’t get access to your location unless you explicitly give the permission.
Depends on the bank. Graphene has support for seedvault backups, or you could use syncthing-fork to sync the data over. Or any one of those Foss airdrop clones
I also went Graphene, and it’s privacy for me too.
I really don’t want Google Play Services running, and GrapheneOS gives me that option. I have three profiles:
main - no Google Play Services, most apps are from F-Droid
work - Google Play Services, and only the apps I need for work
“google” - Google Play Services, and only apps I need occasionally (e.g. Google Watch/Wallet, Maps, etc)
I spend 99% of my time on main, and most of the rest in “work” (need it for MFA). My phone reboots every 4 hours, so Google Play eventually stops running in the background (tried more frequently, and it was annoying).
There are other Android ROMs, but GrapheneOS has really rapid security updates, perhaps faster than anywhere else. The other projects are good too, it’s just the first I tried and I’ve liked it so far.
I really should switch to Graphene
Can I install my bank app on it yet? I remember having problems with attestation in the past.
What about full application backups? I’ve got a few offline apps, I’d like to transfer the data to/from. However, I thought grapheneOS needed the application developer to “approved” this backup/restore method - or you needed root (which invalidated attestation)… I don’t recall which it was (but I really miss titanium backup).
my bank app is specificially listed as working but i would def check
here is a list of compatible banking apps, however the list is crowd sourced so trust but verify.
Wow, this is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
Original, I thought “hey, everything will work”… but then I started to look into the details. For example, Revolut, it works, then it doesn’t work (due to attestation), then works (after people complain).
I really need to ask myself, if this is the kind of experience I want with my daily driver. On the other hand, I know this is just Google strong arming me into their walled garden. Man, I really hate this dystopian future.
And as a follow up question to this, are there any container apps to run those apps that won’t work in a way that they think they are running on stock android?
They have sandboxed Google services if you need it. But kind of defeats the purpose of Grpahene OS.
I have been on Calyx for a year now. Bank apps in my country totally works with microg.
No, it doesn’t. The sandboxing ensures that the Google services have none of the broad access to the operating system they have on a normal Android. For example Google won’t get access to your location unless you explicitly give the permission.
I assume Graphene won’t work with my employer’s MDM software. :/
Depends on the bank. Graphene has support for seedvault backups, or you could use syncthing-fork to sync the data over. Or any one of those Foss airdrop clones
Nope, but you can use their web apps.
Not sure about backing up apps, never looked into it.
What’s making you choose Graphene?
Lots of reasons but mostly privacy and a boner for doing nerdy shit.
Privacy
I also went Graphene, and it’s privacy for me too.
I really don’t want Google Play Services running, and GrapheneOS gives me that option. I have three profiles:
I spend 99% of my time on main, and most of the rest in “work” (need it for MFA). My phone reboots every 4 hours, so Google Play eventually stops running in the background (tried more frequently, and it was annoying).
There are other Android ROMs, but GrapheneOS has really rapid security updates, perhaps faster than anywhere else. The other projects are good too, it’s just the first I tried and I’ve liked it so far.
Thank you for this answer. I’m interested in using something like this rather than the mainstream OSs.