OK I don’t understand your logic. They spend billions of dollars to get people to vote. Door knockers are there to get people like me to vote. Do you not understand how elections work?

OK well tell me about Michigan Arabs and how much power they are holding in this election.

If not voting is so powerless then why are you all so upset about the idea of people not voting?

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Liberals are fascists 🤷

Actually, voting for the “lesser evil” is how we got into those mess and how it will continue

We need serious and deep election reforms in our country. These parties are trash. “Less evil” is still evil. You’ll look the other way for the next four years while Gazans continue to die from American bullets

Don’t vote! It feels great!

If Democrats see Gazan children as totally expendable, what makes you think they see anybody else differently?

OK then it sounds like voting and not voting have the same result so why should I bother?

This is totally illogical and you know it. And your Starbucks gift card “metaphor” is a complete false equivalence.

Why do parties run campaigns if their job isn’t convince voters? Billions of dollars and endless hours of research are spent courting votes but you say it’s not their job and they don’t care? Wha???

I wish anybody would pay me!

If enough people stop voting it would force the government to legitimize itself. It would show how many people are actually dissatisfied and empower all of us. It could lead to more people refusing to vote in future, further eroding the appearance of legitimacy of the current arrangement

Would you rather I stop posting here and vote for Trump instead?

Is genocide OK because Biden and then kamala Harris will be letting it happen?

Address each point?

1. You MUST NOT vote. If you don’t like the choice then you have freedom to abstain

2. You can vote in local elections and abstain from races in which you don’t like the choices. I firmly believe we need “none of the above” on all ballot races

3. Participation in government is not only limited to voting. See my Point 1 in the previous comment. If anything, insistence on voting as the be-all-end-all allows people to ignore the actual hard work of democratic responsibilities

4. “unpopular ideas get no competition” is logically false. If both choices are unpopular or unsatisfactory, the ideas are competing against the threat of losing the race due to apathetic voters

5. What rights have ever been gained by voting? In the US, pretty much every positive social and legislative change came via collective direct organization and action and/or threat of violence (if not actual violence).

Your talking points are tired, illogical, and smack of received wisdom rather than coming from a deliberately thought-out set of ideas and understanding of the world.

I ask you this: How do you know I will vote how you want me to vote?

1. Voting is the easiest, least frequent form of participating in democracy

2. Not voting is a valid democratic choice until they give us a choice that includes “none of the above” on every ballot race

3. It’s not on me, it’s on the candidates and parties to court my vote. They don’t even bother 🤷

4. Not voting gets to systemic change. Voting tells the system that you’re satisfied with its current form

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I won’t vote at all

Trump winning would be hilarious though, watching liberals melt down after justifying genocide for a year

Not voting for is the best strategy. If everyone who was dissatisfied would stop voting, there would be more progress than continuing to choose the “lesser of two evils” (who happily enable and cheer for genocide, BTW)

You don’t like being reminded that you are going to vote for genocide enablers?

Who’s the child???

She said that but then she had a private meeting with Netanyahu. She is a coward who didn’t show up the day he was addressing Congress so that she wouldn’t have to be seen clapping for him

If Dems lose this election (they probably won’t) it would be in large part because of her party’s cowardly stance on the Palestine issue and continuing fealty to Israel.

Exactly, so don’t vote

Hey let’s vote for the lady whose party wants to sell Israel more weapons!

What is the even the point of the justice system then???