Whenever people ask why anyone makes open source software for free, I’m going to use this as a metaphor.

Dang, a whole dollar? I would sell origami tanks for 25¢ each, didn’t realize people would pay more than that.

I thought so too. I remember looking for alternatives for when it would be removed completely.

As far as I know, nothing really changed as a result of them stepping down.

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Paywall article :/

What’s more, there was a recent discussion about why the derive feature is recommended in serde, and one of the points brought up was that the versions for both crates basically have to be equal. I couldn’t help but wonder, would this be a problem if the releases actually followed semver? Theoretically, it shouldn’t matter what versions you use, as long as they’re above a certain minor version and the major versions match. But since everything is a patch, we have to pin the two crates together somehow.

Probably a spicy take, but I think any API being used by a macro should be made public. A macro shouldn’t be the only way to do something; it should just be a way to remove the boilerplate required to do it.

There are also plenty of purposeful semver violations. For example, serde makes basically no attempt to follow semver, and any pleas to do otherwise fall on deaf ears.

I think people consider it a fiasco because of the amount of backlash, drama, and accusations that surrounded it. The whole thing showed failures in the way things were decided and communicated as well.

Is there any proof of this? I think one of the replies on the original thread is wise:

Maybe take hearsay from an anonymous Internet catgirl with a grain of salt.

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You can download the code directly from crates.io still.

Yeah, I’ve noticed this happening elsewhere on Lemmy instances, too.

Well said. I imagine that maintaining a project as ubiquitous as serde is not an easy job, and I’m sure dtolnay is no stranger to holding his ground when people disagree with him. I’m therefore not that surprised to see him holding his ground on this issue, and I think people should still continue the discussion with him instead of immediately forking.

I personally think that proposing a PR to allow opting out of this (as is being hashed out here: https://github.com/serde-rs/serde/pull/2580) is a much better solution than forking. In my experience in open source dev, writing a PR often produces much better results than just complaining in an issue.

dtolnay isn’t the only maintainer though. oli-obk is also a maintainer and is participating in the discussions on the PR.

Fun fact: the guy who wrote watt is the same guy who wrote serde.

Really hits weird when a video talking about something so serious has a thumbnail that looks like it could be on a video about Fortnite.

Accounts can indicate whether they are bots. You can even filter posts from bot accounts.

Reading that argument makes me feel like we’ve made it as a platform 👍