

I don’t care if it’s the first act of Henry the Fifth, that’s a bit much.


I don’t care if it’s the first act of Henry the Fifth, that’s a bit much.


Yeah this is why I did a personal risk assessment and decided worrying about an RFID exploit wasn’t worth the effort. It’s easier for me to just get a notification from my banking app every time my card is used and acting on it immediately if something is wrong. The busses here hit your card for one cent the first time you use it in a day, and then never charge you more than a day pass. If you use the same card, you have a variable transfer window depending on time of day. 90+ minutes most of the time, but up to six hours overnight.


It’s that or share your entire purchase history with the world’s biggest ad company. It essentially comes down to a tradeoff of a small outlier risk that isn’t likely to have any significant effect in most peoples’ lifetimes against an absolute certainty that your privacy will be violated and exploited. I am not seeing how that’s preferable, but it’s your choice, and you have to do what you’re most comfortable with.


Oops meant card. Most people carry their card in their wallet and use a pay app on their phone, so their card can get skimmed if the card is in their phone case or their wallet. While everyone has different risk tolerance, the actual risk of encountering fraud like skimming physical cards in wallets or at the register is small enough to not be a show stopper for most people.


It’s no less secure than keeping your card in your wallet like all but the most paranoid of us do, and it’s more convenient than Google pay. Plus it comes with the benefit of not sharing your purchase history with an ad company, and lets you use a much more secure and private OS. Your call, but seems like an easy choice to me.


Put your card in your phone case.


Since you are likely going to need to create bootable media for any OS install anyway, just use Rufus for Windows 11. Check a few boxes and you don’t have to deal with anything you don’t want. Well, other than Windows that is.


Looks like a piece of art to me. I’d make your argument in reverse about how ugly the 5 is, but different strokes for different folks. I catch more people checking it out and then come talk to me about it when I walk up to my Ioniq 6 than I ever did driving a Corvette. Public opinion seems that it’s nice, just too expensive for them. And for those that do want to invest in it, the 5 is more useful to most with the hatchback.


I see. That person refuted the claim that the CT was outselling the Ioniq 6 as I claimed. But from every source I see, CT sold about 70K and Ioniq 6 about half that, hence my original post claiming such. He may be confused and was pulling annual US sales numbers about the Ioniq 5, which sells about 30-35K models per year. But as per my original post and the article, this is about car sales in the US only and defines US market flops in terms of sales numbers, with no other metric considered. The Ioniq 6 was outsold by the CT and had more time on the market, which makes it arguably worse.


So unless you have a lot of very specific knowledge, that’s going to be beyond the layman to do. This article didn’t cover any of those costs in its comparison beteeen the Edsel and the CT. They compared sales numbers. Anything else would be cool to know, but aren’t really important in terms of what was compared here.


And? The CT sold more than that in 2024 alone. I am confused as to what point you are trying to make here.


Are you confusing Ioniq 5 with the 6? I doubt Hyundai sold 37,000 Ioniq 6s in the US throughout its entire production run, but Tesla sold 38,965 CTs in 2024 alone, and a little over 20K in 2025. I have seen this number on other sites as well. Hyundai reported percentage decline for the Ioniq 6, but I saw sliding numbers from 2023 to 2024 where they sold about 9000 cars per year down to only about 1200 in total for 2026 before they pulled out. The Ioniq 5 sells over 30K cars per year.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-sales-elon-musk/


For sure I think that matters. Total investment cost in developing it and manufacturing facilities as well too. At least the Ioniq 6 sells well elsewhere. It’s more of a US flop, but I doubt they are thinking beyond their borders when it comes to worst automotive flop ever.


While that may be true, I can’t imagine any American article considering a perspective outside of the US. CT is available in Canada as well, and at least anecdotally, I see them just a little less often than Ioniq 6s. I bought a 6 a couple years ago and love it. Interestingly, I did not find the 5 as appealing, though it too had good bona fides as an EV.


Can’t be the worst flop. The Cybertruck outsold the Ioniq 6 by roughly a 2:1 margin in the US. Both were introduced around the same time, and it sounds like Hyundai already pulled the 6 from the US market. But while the Cybertruck was a certified piece of crap, the Ioniq 6 was consistently rated at the top of available EV on the market. I guess sedans are pretty much DOA as a body style these days though.


I see the same on my commute, but it isn’t random. The same lanes consistently move faster between the same stretches every day. If you know how and when to merge, you can shave a significant amount of time off your drive.
I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe


Seriously, we oughta give them the boot.
They won’t be given a weapon until they’re at the front and facing the direction they need to walk in, and if they even start to turn, they’ll be shot before they can halfway pivot towards their own side. So they face the choice of being executed at that moment or walk towards the enemy force. I imagine most take their chances trying the latter. You might get to surrender, if you’re lucky.
Adolf Hitler was in a number of propaganda films, including 1940’s The March for the Fuhrer, with German actress Elsa Wagner. Wagner starred in The Pedestian with Maximilian Schell, who starred in Telling Lies in America with Kevin Bacon.