It sounded like maybe you were secretly happy about the murders, or sympathized a little bit. If not, that’s my mistake and I apologize.

I’m addressing the victim blaming apologists in this thread. If that isn’t you then carry on.

Free speech means being able to say and support things you believe in without the threat of being murdered for it. Any sympathy for the murderer undermines free speech and democratic society. This is not complicated…

Seems like a lot of victim blaming in here. It can be very simple. Don’t murder people you disagree with. Also, free speech needs to be protected culturally as well, and not just through the government. But the government must also protect free speech, and that includes protecting people from others. There doesn’t need to be a discussion about understanding motives at all. It’s wrong and needs to be condemned, full stop. Otherwise you don’t have a free country. You can’t hand wave it away or shrug just because you understand their motive.

It’s illogical to compare them from a moral perspective. You don’t get to just shoot people because they have a different perspective than you, because they were raised differently or get their news from different places than you do. It’s not exactly whataboutism though, it’s more of a false equivalence. Whatever the case, the gunman is not morally justified in murdering these two people. If you think he is, then you are blinded by ideology and shouldn’t be allowed to participate in democratic society.

You aren’t over reacting. It’s a massive false equivalence comparing what Israel has done against the murder of two individuals. The guy that got murdered isn’t Israel. He’s a person with opinions, right or wrong. He got murdered for a few tweets and an affiliation with Israel. He’s not a combatant, but a civilian. Same for his wife. People justifying these murders are flat out wrong, and there’s no place in America for ideological murders. In order to have a system where free speech is protected, you can’t allow people to be murdered for their views. There is no defending these murders or trying to justify them.

There’s nobody to speak for the woman either way. This wouldn’t be a clear issue in any state.

It’s still way up from a year ago. The insane climb after the election was unsupported hype, which has been corrected. Say what you want about tesla, but the stock price looks pretty healthy.

Mad about what? Your uninformed and salty opinion? You aren’t the first edgelord I’ve met on the internet…

Bro the irony… you don’t understand religion but happily assume that it’s about pedophilia. I think you got a hard on for hating religion and have a hard time seeing anything else.

Hold on, you seriously believe that the purpose of the catholic church is to promote pedophilia?

Not sure if you are just being an edge lord or if you are a moron.

I guess I would define a pedophile ring as an organization whose purpose is to abuse children.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Abusers-occupation-Occupation-n_tbl4_237962292

It’s not like the pope or the catholic leadership is encouraging pedophiles. They’ve covered things up that happened, but it’s pretty wild to act like it’s some kind of pedo ring.

By straight numbers I’m sure that’s the case, but i doubt its true by percentage. But to be honest I’m not sure if the study included parents.

Teaching has the most pedophiles, followed by music tutor, and priests/clerics are 3rd.

That only applies if you are the objective truth. If you are wrong, then it’s just another tool for bigotry, an excuse to ignore other opinions.

Yeah you are right. There have been a couple others, but quite a few attempts to ban various parties. I don’t quite understand the system and it’s possible that banning a party there isn’t near as big of a deal as it seems to me. If a party were banned in the united states, it would be very alarming. I think the only party ever banned was the communist party in 1950s, but even that is no longer really in effect.

No the court labeled afd as “confirmed right wing extremist” and someone else decided that that meant they couldn’t participate.