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  • I fully agree. But the idea of reversing was always that you don’t. You don’t shoot at a target, reverse away and shoot at another other. You and your 49 buddies shoot at 20 targets, and then ~35 of you move forward. Repeat till Germany and France surrender.

    It’s an entirely non-mbt philosophy to fielding tanks, and it’s demonstrably worse and has been shown to be worse repeatedly (pretty much constantly) over the decades. And they haven’t it changed it in the slightest. They’re literally doing the same with tanks as with people. Send em in, and if they make it they make it.

    RENK of France has made a superior powerpack with proper reverse gears, this makes a T-72 into a real tank or at least begins the process.

    Russians have always been dogshit at making engines. Imagine being so terrible at it that a French company makes an engine and transmission that’s both better AND easier to maintain.


  • Russia has always designed it’s entire military force with one doctrine in mind:

    Start driving at the border and don’t stop till you get to Dunkirk before the Americans do.

    It doesn’t involve such niche tactics as “reversing from an enemy”, at most there is “hold in place and shoot 5000 pieces of artillery, then start driving again”. It doesn’t involve the wild concept that at some point, the enemy might locally outnumber or outclass you. It doesn’t involve such problems as “maybe we won’t have enough troops”, or “what if we run out of tanks or guns”, because they could either win the war in three weeks, or everyone would start dropping nukes.

    They’ve literally been working on the same things since the 60s. It might have worked back then, when they had a bazillion modern-enouh tanks, but today, when all they can do it drip-feed them into the grinder, it’s a shit doctrine. That’s not the fault of the tank though.

    Even with an outdated sight, too little armor and no real reverse gear it’s still a tank. Those are still incredibly useful if used properly, and Ukraine shows it time and time again. But if you still think that you’re at the head of the grand soviet army towards Rotterdam, the problem is the crew, not the tank.


  • Tanks have always had to adapt, just like every other piece of military gear ever.

    Anyone saying “tanks aren’t useful” should ask themselves why Russia is spending to much time and money and effort rebuilding even the most rusted out shitbucket, why Ukraine is spending so much money and political goodwill to get tanks and restore the blowup Russian shitbuckets they capture.

    It’s because tanks are very much an important weapon. There are no other tools you can use to bring a big damned gun forward in a very survivable way very rapidly. It can respond instantly, and stick around constantly, which are abilities no other weapon system has.

    Tanks have weaknesses, but so does every system. That’s why combined arm warfare builds doctrines to eliminate the weaknesses of individual systems by meshing multiple things together. But that’s very hard, and Russia is really quite bad at it. It also requires all those different systems, which they don’t have.