Id much prefer people just posted on Lemmy.

And I learn something every day. ;-)

Aim on Day 1 of yunohost. Running on a VPS Today but planning on moving it to a local server when I get my OpenWrt routing sorted out .

So this is 100% a really common situation. I don’t know any of my friends that aren’t hovering at about 96% of their gmail capacity and don’t want to pay. In fact that’s me today. Hence I’ve been looking around at self hosted alternatives and had previously looked at extracting my emails from Google and loading them in from local storage into Thunderbird - However I was playing around with Yunohost today and randomly uncovered this page - https://yunohost.org/es/email_migration I’m not sure how relevant it is but points to potentially some approaches. I can’t vouch for them but I’d love to hear from anyone who has used imapsync or larch

I’m on day one of Yunohost after months of trying to work out how to approach hosting things like Nextcloud and struggling through bare metal installations, trying to slowly get my head around Docker. Its like suddenly seeing the light … I mean I really didn’t think I would almost have an email server running today. (Its this a dangerous thing?)

Sorry that should be coopcloud.tech

I have been looking.at the same thing. Basically alternatives to Google Workplace or MSFT 365.

https://lemmy.ml/post/21772726. I think most people are using a hosting providers email and web hosting and then maybe running Nextcloud and other apps themselves though there are some providers who are doing integrated email and Nextcloud.

There are things like coopcloud.tech and yunohost.org that appear to be trying to provide.out of the box self hosting ‘recipies’ Im just starting to look at yunohost but just for me / the family. - Id personally love to meet people and work through using these together as I am not an expert. It would seem that these might be the ‘killer app’ for self hosted alternative cloud services but Im not sure and they might not be quite mature enough. I have know knowledge of the admin overhead.

Google and MSFTs free for non-profits mean that clubs/small charities end up using those two anyway.

coopcloud.tech

They have a handy comparison - https://docs.coopcloud.tech/intro/comparisons/ might look at Yunohost - If anyone has any experience I’d been keen to catch up. I’m a newbie though

Yeah there does seem to be some crossover. I get the feeling that coop.tech is thinking more standardised solutions for multiple people / organisations where dokploy is more bespoke . configs individuals/ individual orgs.

I think this is more where you run a kiosk and you can (using cli) deploy an instance of a selection of apps per domain. Its all Opensource.

elfhost seems to be a commercial service to sell you deployment of SaaS hosted aps. ( But it looks like to bundles deployment and hosting - Im not sure)

What I am trying to understand is whether coopcloud are trying to bring those apps together to work in standard integrated ways - Or just be able to spin them up.

e.g. Having out of the box ldap, email and Nextcloud instances that work nicely together would be appealing. Drop a domain in. Spin up an instance and you are off.

I kind of like the document but I’m struggling with all the cookies given that its hosted on xda-developers.com. In the eat your own dogfood kind of way… Do you have your own host that you could serve this up from? Wordpress?

Ah so I started with this and got stuck. I was struggling adding existing layers which already had relevant features.

Maybe we could chat and see if I can have another go.

I want to be independent. My understanding is that Tail scale relies on a service they run or a endpoint you run on a VPS - Is that right?

Yeah been using No-ip free but I worry that one day I will forget to confirm and ill ge cut-off.

Be aware of the risks of hosting your websites publicly from home, make sure to run them in very isolated environments. Having your VPS compromised is bad, but having your home network compromised is much worse!

Agree - Not something I will throw myself into.

Yes I use no-ip but have to confirm the domain name every month or so and cant use my own domain on the free tier. (Maybe im just being cheap) - Also I haven’t been able to figure out how I would use / get SSL certificates.

Wow thanks everyone. I think I need to take another look at some of the DynDNS provides and digest all your great feedback.

Id like to go beyond personal self hosting stuff and maybe run some stuff that requires Federation. Im just thinking at the moment.

Yeah …

Yes … StreetMeaure is very useful - Though I’d prefer it to be available from F-droid - I wonder why its not? Same developer right?

I noticed that I wasn’t actually using Switch Container so I’ve deactivated that for a while.