I was mildly interested until I saw “designed for creators”. Seems like a meaningless marketing term that gets added to everything these days.

Can’t even vote without a Google account.

They’re not making an argument for the filter bubble though.

Very anecdotal but I’ve asked my normie friends about Threads and they think it was hardly ever a thing. It may be 100 million active users but that’s still a small percentage of the population it’s available to, and given it’s for profit that might not even be enough to sustain it. With Mastodon and Lemmy it’s quality over quantity, I’m happy to be smaller, just hope we can keep Threads out if they last long enough to get around to federating.

They’ve always been pretty transparent about that kind of thing though haven’t they?

I don’t think they’re denying the filter bubble exists, just giving a different theory on why things have turned bad.

It’s probably the same kind of culture clash that the original video talks about. I’ve got to admit it is something that can rile me up probably more than it rationally deserves to, if I let it (and I’m sure others too).

I remember being told off by a moderator in the 90s for not writing full-sentence replies. You can’t even imagine that today. Of course back then, as the video touches on, if you didn’t like the culture or policies of a forum you just moved to another one, there were no cries of “censorship” because you choose where you want to be.

But I think that makes a good point, in the past people could choose whether they wanted to go on a forum for serious discussion, or a different forum for more casual low-effort posting. These days all these different “posting cultures” are forced to be together and end up annoying each other.

I get that, I live in the south of my country too, but only the US feels entitled enough to say “the south” and expect the whole world to know where they are.

Interesting video, makes a lot of sense. Just a couple of things to add:

In the old days of forums it’s worth remembering that people on the internet had more in common with each other than they do today - i.e. generally they were people who were in to computers.

What really gets me down these days is the extremely low-effort of posting everywhere you go. I think that partly comes from the impersonal nature of online communication. Nobody knows who anyone is any more.

I agree it would be better to go back to independent message boards but it’s a shame there’s no “call to action” - it would be nice but how do we get people to do it? This is a popular YouTube channel, it would be great if it started some kind of ball rolling.

Correct, if they weren’t user-hostile, it would have been more likely I would have built up some good-will towards them and would be happy to pay.

I am, as it happens, but I don’t feel under any obligation to.

Firstly, how they get paid is a private matter between them and YouTube, they signed their contracts, not me.

Secondly, YouTube could run privacy-respecting non-targeted ads. I’m not punishing YouTube for having ads, I’m punishing them for being spyware.

I don’t think you can be sure they’re not profiling you for advertising on other sites just because they’re not showing ads on YouTube. The purpose of uBO is security. Plus I wouldn’t give money to a shady company like Google anyway.

Jes