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Cake day: August 5th, 2023

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  • https://vger.to/lemmy.world/comment/26171736

    This is a link to my original comment on the subject. I did not say what you think I said in the comment you replied to or the original comment I linked. Her ignorance doesn’t absolve her of her actions or the consequences. Intent does matter to some extent but there have also been a lot of news reports about how data you share with corporate LLM’S isn’t private and so then the question becomes should she have known and not just if she did or didn’t know.

    If someone else steals something and sells it to you or gifts it to you and you had no knowledge that it was stolen you can still be prosecuted under the law for receiving stolen goods. Your intent in the matter should be considered because there is a difference between knowingly receiving something you know is stolen and not reporting it, and just getting something without knowing it’s legal provenance and not reporting it. But you can still be charged either way.

    In this case though an attempt was made to notify the user that her chats were not private in a EULA or TOS. They changed that TOS relatively recently (something like a year ago I think). At that time it looks like users would have been required to agree to an updated TOS with specific verbage about the sharing of chats that doesn’t look like it would have required users to read the entire TOS, just the agree popup. I linked the article for that below because while that was for allowing AI to train on user data, it should have been a clue that the chats were not private.

    https://www.bgr.com/1953473/anthropic-train-claude-chats-how-opt-out/

    https://www.anthropic.com/news/updates-to-our-consumer-terms






  • They have mics, cameras and speakers in them with an AI that interjects on its own and spies on all your apps.

    I wasn’t going to buy them before I read the article, but I’m certainly not interested now.

    I like the idea of AR as an aid for disabilities or in certain practical applications in science and industry but they aren’t marketing this to warehouses, nuclear plants, or automotive assemblers. They’re marketing it to influencers and randos. No thanks.




  • I’m not. It still takes screenshots regardless of whether it can access your Internet connection to receive data or send it.

    What I’m saying (though I failed at being clear) is that it will take screenshots of anything you put up on the screen (passwords, Internet connection data, Bluetooth device data etc). There was something in one of the videos I linked in another comment about it also collecting data via Bluetooth scanning.

    Plus, if the device has ever been connected to a Wi-Fi network and you don’t disable wifi (in settings or physically on the board) there’s a significant possibility it will try to access the open networks around you. If your neighbor has an open guest network? That’s all it needs to continue to upload that information to the cloud.

    I also seem to remember LG deliberately limiting 3rd party apps ability to use or create peer to peer networks but I haven’t seen anything about them limiting their own first party apps or OS. I wonder if that’s part of the alarming stuff Gamerz Nexus alluded to in the video when they talked about vulnerabilities that could compromise these TVs.

    It was something like 5 am when I wrote my initial comment and I wasn’t fully awake yet. I’m sorry if it came off wrong but I didn’t intend to say that LG TVs were using HDMI connected computer’s Internet connections. Just that they can see anything and everything you can see when you connect and set up that device.

    Nobody ever factory resets a TV before they get rid of it. If your trash guy decides to take home the TV you threw away and hook it up to the internet, or if you sell it, the next person might hook it up to the internet.





  • There’s a lot of misinformation in the comments here.

    1. LG have been caught using the Internet connection of connected devices (like windows computers) to snoop on your network.
    2. Because of that, it has access to your network even if you remove the wifi module or do not connect the TV directly to your network.
    3. Lobotomizing the TV will not necessarily fix this issue, but I still think it’s a good start. It may be beneficial to switch to a different operating system or just ban the TV from accessing certain parts of the Eco system on your computer.
    4. Removing Bluetooth, wifi, and microphone modules will be beneficial in the long run because this will not be the last time a company tries this and it’s not limited to LG. If you are technically inclined or can follow a YouTube video, go for it.