• 0 Posts
  • 46 Comments
Joined 3 years ago
cake
Cake day: June 12th, 2023

help-circle

  • Not familiar with the specific law in question, but for a lot of laws intent and knowledge at the time of crime matter. Eg the difference between manslaughter and murder is a difference in attitude.

    I could plausibly see that in this case there is not enough evidence to determine what the mind set was, while the physical action still undoubtedly took place.

    Eg in Germany showing the Nazi salute or displaying a swastika are illegal, except for artistic or educational purposes. A case could be constructed in which a defendants intent when showing either the gesture or the symbol could not be clearly deduced. This not enough evidence exists wether a crime was committed, even though the physical action that would constitute the crime undoubtedly happened.

    Could be a similar thing is at play here.



  • Obligatory, I haven’t read the article.

    Well maybe start there then. Then you would know that there were several witnesses (he didn’t do it in an office in secret, but in the entrance lobby).

    You would also know that the incident happened a while ago and the parliamentary review board has already stripped him of his immunity for this case. So a group of his colleagues already determined there is sufficient evidence for such an investigation.

    If it’s so easy to slander and cause legal woes, as to say “they did a Nazi salute,

    This is true of any crime. Unless you have more than somebody’s word to go on, there won’t be any kind of investigation. Moreover, as an MP the guy enjoys parliamentary immunity unless it is specifically lifted by a committee of his colleagues (which includes members of his own party).

    would you still think these circumstances are fine if the claim of the salute were false

    Yes. If an MP is accused of any crime, this is the normal process of investigation. Wether or not the accusation is true or not is precisely the point of this investigation.

    political party member were arrested because someone disagreed with their ideology

    Not just a party member, an MP specifically. And they were not arrested, just formally charged with a crime. And it wasn’t over an agreement of ideology, but for doing a very specific thing that is well known to be illegal (with exceptions for education and art). Now, if your ideology can not be expressed without doing a Nazi salute, then I guess, yes your ideology is illegal in Germany. Wether or not that is good or not, is left as an exercise for the reader.

    What if it were a left leaning party member who received the allegation?

    Presumably the same thing would happen except any non-AfD party would immediately conduct their own internal investigation and promptly boot any member that actually did this.













  • Calling her journalist is a stretch. She is the token woman mouth piece of the Ayatollah regime. When the Zan zendegi azadi protests were going on, she called for the protestors to be shot.

    She is objectively an evil person who is now sitting in the bed she helped make.

    Israel is bad and this unprovoked attack is a move by Netanyahu and Trump to distract from their domestic problems. But in the giant pile of shit that this situation is, that bitch getting scared is one of the few nuggets of pure karma.

    I hope Khamenei dies too btw. Is that a problem too?



  • chillhelm@lemmy.worldtoWorld News@lemmy.worldIran Strikes Back
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    7 months ago

    Yes. Iranians hate their government and want regime change, it’s dubious wether this will help. Most likely it will be used by the regime for more crackdowns and cheap propaganda.

    It is dubious wether bombing from afar can even achieve the stated goal (stopping the nuclear program). Hoping it will somehow magically bring about regime change is a stretch.