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  • I didn’t downvote you. Homie don’t do that.

    The Bible isn’t the literal word of God, but is doctrinally infallible by the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

    A couple things:

    John 10:30-38: I and my Father are one.

    There is, at least in Christian circles, only one God. There can only be one omnipotent God. He is everything else by default. The Holy Spirit must be some personification of God, yet still God. I mean God the Father, God The Son and God the Holy spirit. God being the common thread. I’m not sure how that all works tho.I get the egg thing but usually one says ‘egg yolk, egg white, egg shell’. Plus when we are talking about an egg, we realize it’s not a senescent being that’s been around for infinity, that claims to be God. Kind of the same, but kind of not.

    Additionally, speaking to the bible not being the literal word of God, I think a profound number of Christians would love to have word with you. If it’s not the literal word of God, then how do you test it’s accuracy. Lots of religious texts have been very well preserved. If the bible isn’t the lieral word of God, then maybe you don’t really know whether your future is in eternal reward.

    However, if you do know, then I’d be keen to know how you know. Because so far, no one I’ve ever talked to has come up with a good solid reason why they know sans circular reasoning. Also, what is your theology, your religious background,


  • Here’s my issue with the whole translation/mistranslation argument. I am not naive enough to think that translating text from one language to another is all linear. Languages are complex. Translation always adds and takes away. This is indicative of a human effort to translate text from one language to another. However, the biblical text of Christianity is alledgely god’s very own words.

    Most Christians would say that god inspired the bible to be written. As in, he guided the scribe’s hands and whispered the words into their ears. It may seem obtuse, but if an omnipotent god inspired his words to be written, why did he fumble the translation thereof? If his words are so important, why did he leave it up to man? That’s a sure fire way to confuse things.


  • You’re probably meaning to ask “How do you know Jesus is God?”. Which is the crux of the matter.

    No. As I stated early on, all religions/gods at this point are the same to me. Tho they all may differ in theology, they all purport the same thing: Beleive as we do in our god and go to our ‘heaven’. Don’t believe as we do in our god and go to our ‘hell’. Until I get the rest sorted, it’s not time to choose one.

    Another thing to throw out here is God is beyond our comprehension.

    If you say that your Judeah/Christian god created all seen and unseen, and if we take into account that the laws that govern this universe are very logical, I would expect that this god is logical. He hints towards that in 1 Corinthians 14:33 - ‘For God is not the author of confusion’. If he is not the author of confusion, then he must be the author of logic. I expect him to be logical. Creating humans just to send them to a firey pit where the worm dieth not and the fire is not quenched, is not logical. You do not intentionally cause pain and suffering to those you say you love. That is just on a human level, how much more true on a god level?

    So some things necessarily don’t make sense by our human perspective.

    Well, they’d better start making sense, because you’re betting your eternal soul on something you don’t necessarily understand. That is not logical.

    We cannot be called to repentance without the work of the Holy Spirit because we are so depraved. We by nature reject God and go astray. It’s so bad that we can only come to God through the power of His Spirit.

    • An omnipotent god created all humans.
    • All humans after Adam & Eve, were created sinners
    • Sinners sin by design

    I was created a sinner through no fault or choice of my own. Much like my skin color, hair color or texture, et al. I had no choice. God created me a sinner KNOWING I would sin, KNOWING I would either go to eternal reward, or eternal damnation. He had express foreknowledge from before there was anything to call anything. Again, he either knows this and is omnipotent, or he does not know this and is not omnipotent, and therefore not god. What do we know about things that god knows? They happen. So, lets say my fate is eternal damnation. No matter what I do, I am destined to eternal torment, because an omnipotent god already knows this bit of info.

    This negates freewill.

    The flood destroyed evil people - everyone but Noah was especially evil

    God knew, before he created them, that they would all be evil, and that he’d get pissed off at all of them, and that he would destroy them all. He knew that before there was anything to call anything. Yet, he did it anyways. It would have been a lot simpler just to poof them to eternal damnation right out of the womb…or not create them in the first place.

    I found. In short- That so many people legitimately saw Him alive after death and died confessing that.

    In various historical religious traditions, such as Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism, there are numerous accounts of individuals claiming to have seen God or divine figures. These experiences are often described in mystical terms and can be deeply transformative. Seeing one’s god is not unique.

    Romans 9:16-23 ESV … [20] But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?”

    Yes indeed, I am the molded and I am asking directly ‘Why have you made me like this?’. I think I have every right and volition to do just that. As stated previously, I question god because he gave a specific directive to do so.

    ‘Test the spirits’.

    Faith and works are the sign of our salvation

    Everyone who exists, or has existed on this planet, has faith. Even the most obnoxious, militant atheist has faith. If faith and works are the ticket in, then everyone is going to eternal reward. That is impossible due to the laws that govern this universe. Nature abhors a vacuum. For every + there must be a -. Nature seeks equilliberim, so everyone can’t be going to eternal reward.