You’re right, but resistance is more than just revolution and even if everyone else is ok with living in 1984, I’m not. I know plenty of people who aren’t and I have a feeling the majority of the people where I live aren’t either (especially based on the voting data). Resistance to tyranny and injustice itself is just, and it can take many forms. Ideally yes there would be a revolution to remove the fascists from power and build something better, but that’s mostly lip service. I won’t lie, i was very frustrated when I wrote the post but in cooling down I am remembering that the resistance will have to start small and will have to grow. You’re welcome to see some of my other comments for what I’m talking about that isn’t revolution.

Whether he supports it or not, Trump is ushering in Project 2025. The Republican party has control over the presidency, the senate, and the house. Additionally the Supreme Court has been compromised. Disagree if you want but Project 2025 is a christo-fascist plan to overtake the entire government. The implementation of Project 2025 is a literal life or death situation for a lot of the country. It will cause many women, people of color, queer people, and gender non-conforming people to die. This will also kill many services and programs that the working class people rely upon. This will only benefit the powerful and uber-wealthy. For everyone else it will be a horribly dystopic future. Anyone who thinks that they will benefit from this is misunderstanding how much will actually change. Otherwise they would have to lack empathy for their fellow humans.

I think organizing needs to start immediately. There’s no downside to organizing, even if we’re massively overestimating the amount of fascism we’ll see

No problemo, i welcome the feedback and criticism. Thank you for engaging in a good discussion

but are you suggesting the election was rigged or fraudulent?

no.

Because if not you’re the one trying to impose an authoritative regime.

also no, I’m advocating for community organizing against a very obviously fascist regime. im advocating for mutual aid and self reliance. y’know, the things people who are typically targeted by fascists need.

So what you’re talking about is for a minority to raise arms against the democratically elected government.

again, not what I’m saying.

Even if you were to win the revolution you would need to put a tyrant in power because calling a new election would result in the same outcome.

not necessarily?

That’s one of the dangers of democracy, but starting a revolution to remove a democratically elected president in the name of democracy is just as dumb.

nowhere did i say i was fighting in the name of democracy. I do think democracy is generally good, although i do not view the US as a democratic country. but that’s not what im advocating for at all in this. I’m advocating for genuine survival under an oppressive regime and solidarity amongst the people against tyranny. if shit gets real bad, do i think it’s just to fight against it and resist? absolutely. but as I’ve said in other comments, the American people aren’t close to that yet. we need to organize first.

What is the goal you’re trying to achieve? A more democratic government?

That’d be great but I think at this point achieving something other than fascism would be nice.

I do, and logically it makes sense. I’m not historically inept, I largely saw it coming. But the very human part of me wanted to believe it couldn’t happen. And that same human part of me is trying to grapple with the fact that it did.

“Get organized/involved” - What’s that mean in more practical terms? Start attending social gatherings put on/hosted by radical leftist organizations? And maybe start ones if they don’t exist in your area?

“Start organizing” - Same as that first bullet?

“Get involved in mutual aid” - Yeah, ok. I’ve read Eisenstein. I know his book Sacred Economics has some tips for how to get involved with existing mutual aid organizations. I definitely need to re-read that bit and read other sources about that. But at least I have an idea where to start with some of that, I guess. I’d still like more specifics on what in particular you mean by this, though.

Get involved with local organizations, preferably radically left (because otherwise your options are more centrist or conservative, which imo is how we ended up here), that will help you set up mutual aid networks for basic resources and protection. Organize your communities so people have a support structure that isn’t dependent on our broken and corrupt system so that they feel comfortable protesting and resisting tyranny. Build it up so that within the networks you have access to secure communications, free access to information, basic necessities and resources (i.e. food, water, healthcare, medicine, etc.), and planning for resistance and direct action.

“Get armed” - So, acquire firearms. To use in some particular way? (You mentioned you’re not advocating for “acts of violence or an insurrection like January 6th”, so not that, apparently.) Or just to have for when “something” happens? If so, what specifically?

“Don’t wait until troops are rolling down the street to stage a resistance” - 'K. Not really helpful until I understand more specifically what you’re advocating for people to do.

“Get involved with resistance” - So, let’s say you’re a respected voice in a mutual aid radical anarchist collective with guns and enthusiasm. What do you suggest they do?

“Stand, fight, and maybe even die” - How? Not January 6th, but… how then?

“Don’t do nothing”/“Don’t lay down and accept our fate” - Not really helpful on its own if we don’t know what you’re suggesting we do instead of “doing nothing” or “laying down and accepting our fate.”

Get armed, trained, and be prepared to fight so that you can protect those mutual aid networks when the fascists come to dismantle them. Be prepared to fight and lay down your life for those in your community who are bigger targets (i.e. women, people of color, queer and gender non-conforming people, immigrants, etc.) just as you would want them to do for you. As much as possible, become a unified force against the tyranny.

I’m not advocating for random acts of violence or Jan 6th like action because yes that would get me banned, but that also will not be an effective form of resistance. Effective resistance will need to be directed, organized, and focused with specific goals. At some point that may look like fighting a revolutionary war or a coup, but the American people need to crawl before they start walking, let alone run. We need to build strong communities, whether virtual or physical, where we can support each other and try to minimize the harm being done.

I’m not saying to start building pipe bombs, but waiting for the fascist to fascism before organizing sounds like a terrible strategy.

Often. I make it a point to engage with viewpoints different than mine because my perspective is paper thin, and only by understanding others can I hope to expand it.

That being said, I am having a tremendously difficult time understanding how we can willingly just invite fascism (I understand how it happened, I just can’t understand how people actually let this happen).

I understand that wholeheartedly. But I personally refuse to be one of those people that sit back while everything deteriorates. When Hitler was elected a majority did nothing, but many chose resistance. I refuse to be the majority who live as cowards under fascism, so if that means I die resisting then so be it.

I’m not sure that we do. Not in our lifetimes anyway.

I don’t understand this sentiment as I’m hearing it a lot.

We’ve elected a fascist into the highest office. We’re cooked. There’s a lot we can do right now, but the most important thing is organizing. Organizing your community, your family, your town/village/city. Organizing mutual aid, direct action, and resistance. How much more do we need until people actually get off their asses and start doing something about it? Like the time for peaceful and democratic means of avoiding fascism was before the election. But a fascist is now in power, so are we going to wait until the troops are rolling down the street to do anything? I’m not saying go out and just commit wanton acts of violence in the name of revolution, but the longer we wait the more difficult it will become to get organized, involved, and yes armed.

In Paris and Rome most of the police don’t have automatic rifles.

And I think plenty of people would tell and show you exactly why you need a gun in NYC.

Fair, i certainly couldve used better wording

I’m of the opinion that a lot of gun control is ineffective, especially given what guns are supposed to mean. Yes places like Australia have been extremely successful in removing guns, but also look at their policing system and governmental overreach which is honestly quite terrible. I’m of the opinion that the most effective gun control is changing the culture surrounding guns. Bring back (optional) shooting classes in schools, teach kids (and adults) gun safety and actual useful knowledge about firearms. Regulate the access, storage, and use of ammunition. Change the culture from people thinking they’ll be John Wick once they get their glock to people who actually understand that firearms are tools that can be used as weapons, and that they require time, effort, training, and a lot of responsibility to use safely. The cat is out of the bag in the US; guns aren’t going away. Acting like we can remove them is silly, but we can change the perception around them.

I also think we need similar movements for a lot of things, like cars.

Yeah that’s insanely wasteful

I agree with you but that doesn’t mean everyone does. Whether you like it or not, social media platforms are going to be used. OP is just sharing a tool they built and believe may be useful to others for free. There’s no need to shit on their work just because you ideologically disagree with the underlying services managed. Again, I feel the same way as you but OP is contributing a useful tool to the people; that is seldom a bad thing. I could see myself using this to boost my LinkedIn presence, because it’s one of the few things I have and need in my early career. Would I like to get rid of my LinkedIn? Absolutely. Do I despise most social media platforms (including Lemmy to a degree)? Definitely. Do I appreciate OP for making and sharing this? You bet I do.

I really wanted more Iron Blooded Orphans but it’s so good how it is

Have you made the effort and forced yourself to test your own assumptions?

If he wins you resist. If he doesn’t win you resist. Either way America is headed down the road Trump wants to take us down. The only real difference is whether it’s sooner or later, which is a big difference but it’s an even bigger difference to the next generation. We live under an oppressive and tyrannical system aimed only at extracting as much of life’s beauty and enjoyment from people as possible in the form of capital. The only ethical thing to do is fight and resist. To stand against the tyranny. To build our communities and to build up each other so we can resist. To teach and learn so we all know that we must resist.

The Palestinian Genocide is obviously a controversial topic right now, but the Palestinian people are telling us and showing us what we need to see, hear, and know: fascism is here and it will take us all. We must resist and fight until either our bones are ground to dust under their feet, or until we are liberated. The term “intifada” has been politicized but all it means is struggle. Because while their land is occupied, while their lives are lost, while the joy of life is stolen from them, they must struggle. Struggle is just.

So while they take our rights, while they steal our joy of life, while they continue to trample us expecting nothing, we must struggle. Because while our struggle is not the same as the Palestinian struggle, when we resist together we can hope to lift each other up. That is the point of the global intifada. Together we stand taller and stronger. Together we can protect and help each other unlike the system at hand. Resistance is just.

So resist, struggle, and fight. Learn new skills,acquire resources, and build the means to survive so that when they come to take what they want, you can stand resilient. Build mutual aid networks and strong communities so that when they come to take what they want, you can stand together. Arm yourself and train your body and mind so when they come to take what they want, you can stand strong. And fight so that when they come to take what they want, they know that they cannot come again. Resist, struggle, and fight.

We will never see freedom and equality as we dream of, but our children might. The people of Palestine, of Sudan, of the Congo, of Haiti may not see the brighter future they are fighting and struggling for, but they will continue to do so so that their children can. We must continue to do so so that all our children can. Our plights are not equal, but in resisting this tyranny we can hope to bring about change for all of us. That is the global intifada.

Sorry if this was a bit unhinged I’m having a little bit of trouble putting what i want to say into a coherent message. I also hope nobody is seeing this and thinking that I’m equating the struggles in the US to all these other places. Just that when people resist, anywhere and everywhere, we can hope to break our chains and the chains of our fellow humans.