Besides, he didn’t even say Noem specifically quoted it, he said the admin quoted it. That podium was decorated by the admin…

And how would they react if protestors for Renee Good waved that slogan on a sign about ICE?

Doesn’t matter about reality, they can respond to any thing they say, made up or not.

People like him helped Trump win.

People like him are the only people Trump supporters might listen to.

If you ever hope to sway a few Trump supporters, this is the only sort of way to do it. Give them an out, give them a way to say “well we didn’t know it would be like this”. To the extent it was always obvious that they should have known it would be like this, just swallow it, smile and nod at their change in support.

Note that 5th grade papers are always just horrible to read. This is why I don’t like LLM output, because it sounds just like 5th grade papers. Not a soul wants to read middle school papers.

So I think broadly speaking the LLMs can generate middle school papers generally fine, at least they fit in.

Think it depends. Like a lot of other cancer stuff, there’s variability. Most of the common prostate cancer is that easy and in fact they don’t even treat it. My wife’s grandfather was told they would basically do nothing until it started getting bad., and he died of unrelated heart failure years later without his cancer progressing.

Sounds like his was not so livable. Also unclear if he tried ivermectin instead of traditional treatment, or as an additional hail Mary. I’ve known people who had cancer and they tried anything and everything alongside their treatment, in case anything would help. I also knew one guy that thought just vitamin c would cure his cancer and declined any other treatment, and got killed by what may have been a supremely treatable cancer.

I’ve read mixed accounts of that.

Yes, he did try that stuff, but I’ve read some claims that he did it alongside the treatments the doctors gave him.

Like it was kind of pointless, but also kind of harmless because he didn’t let it get in the way of real medicine.

At least when it came to cancer, I don’t think anyone cited him being a denier about more effective treatments, just he was in the “I’ll try anything” mode of having a terminal illness.

Of course he had a lot of other problematic things as a die hard maga, including antivax and whining how white men have it so bad and saying Trump and friends lying was actually good because the lies were “directionally true”, but maybe just not overly bad stuff about the cancer.

The cancer prodded him to actually break with trump on the specific matter of being mean to Biden over the same cancer Adams had.

It’s not a subjective thing. Cold medicines treat symptoms, not the disease. Cold and allergies have common symptoms.

If your concern is that cold medicines don’t work for your allergies, thwn those tend not to work for colds either.

If the medicine is trying to use phenylephrine in a pill, that doesn’t do anything. You might also want to skip the acetaminophen usually included and you have zero need for that, but not every co of d medicine has that.

A month from now:

I’m working on this horrible Venezuela situation that BIDEN left me with. Such a waste of American resources but I’m going to pull that back to make America great again.

Ok, so you weren’t countering that ML wasn’t AI, just contending that ML wasn’t “the” AI in the AI field, that’s fine. Keep in mind this thread kicked off from an assertion that ML wasn’t AI. Fine, ML wasn’t all of AI, but definitely was AI and in the popular understanding, it was pretty much “the” AI in the same way LLM is “the” AI now.

As I said. It’s an extrapolation of the rules from once upon a time to a totally different approach. It’s marketing and increasingly subjective. Any number can “make sense” in that context. The number isn’t based on anything you could actually measure for a long time now, it’s already a fiction, so it can go wherever.

To be fair, the industry spent decades measuring a distance, so when they started doing features that had equivalent effects, the easiest way for people to understand was to say something akin to equivalent size.

Of course, then we have things like Intel releasing their "10 nm* process, then after TSMC’s 7nm process was doing well and Intel fab hit some bumps, they declared their 10 to be more like a 7 after all… it’s firmly all marketing number…

Problem being no one is suggesting a more objective measure.

For a while now the “nm” has been a bit of a marketing description aiming for what the size would be if you extrapolated the way things used to be to today. The industry spent so long measuring that when the measurement broke down they just kind of had to fudge it to keep the basis of comparison going, for lack of a better idea . If we had some fully volumetric approach building these things equally up in three dimensions, we’d probably have less than “100 pm” process easily, despite it being absurd.

I would say more the opposite, in pop culture, LLM == AI. In the technical world, both in university and industry, AI has covered a lot of areas, and machine vision based on ML was absolutely under the category of AI. If you said you used pytorch to train an AI model no one in the industry or academia would have batted an eye.

Yes. And I took an “AI” class as part of computer science curriculum back around 2000, including implementing “AI” stuff in lisp. We’ve been talking about AI for decades and ML for machine vision was always under that umbrella from the time out started becoming viable.

LLM is the recent popular subset of AI, not all of AI.

Yeah, this is right up machine vision alley, and is a pretty straightforward and good thing in general. It lets computers look through haystacks that humans just would take forever to get through. A thoroughly attentative human may do as well, if not better, given enough time, but it takes a lot of time and a human will burn out before reviewing that much imaging.

I mean, prior to the whole LLM craze ML was pretty much ‘the’ AI thing.

Note that AI got so messy they started saying the thing people imagined is ‘AGI’, so I don’t know if you are thinking that, but in that picky scenario there is no such thing as ‘AI’ on the market with that definition.

ML is also AI. Obviously would be one of those instead of the LLM stuff, and generally the LLM stuff is the more controversial.

Note this isn’t an LLM.

Feels like a rerun…