my interpretation, at least:

the trap is the government (the US’ in this example, perhaps) promising freedom of speech/unlawful search and seizure; but then terrorizing and inflicting violence upon those whose opinions they disagree with, but much more regularly and openly.

Those trapped think they are protected from such retaliation because they have ignored/permitted/trivialized the systemic violence against marginalized groups that has been prevalent for centuries. They ignore the signs of their country’s propensity for fascism, and its intentional increase of brazenly hateful rhetoric and policies.

But they are by no means exempt, and many won’t realize that until it’s too late.

Wait So Long - Trampled by Turtles

Mama - My Chemical Romance

Curses - Crane Wives

Your question is a little unclear.

If you’re talking about a debate, or needing to approach someone about something, it’s best to go in as prepared as possible and address any new arguments as they come.

However, the other person has to feel like they’re being heard, understood, and (often) validated in some form—even if it’s not completely genuine—if there is ever a chance of getting them to change their mind.

If this is a personal (or professional) conflict, though, be careful. To some people, it doesn’t matter what you say or how you say it, even if they’re in the wrong.

when I was in high school, I found a puppy (not totally sure, but I’m guessing a pit bull/lab mix) on the porch of my parent’s place a few days before Christmas. Best guess is someone dumped her off at the property, since it’s a farm in a relatively remote area.

Anyway, I convinced my parents to let us keep her. Charlie was an extremely beautiful and sweet dog. But eventually I left for college and moved away.

During the last few years of her life/she would act erratically around me when I’d visit. One second she’d be happy to see me, and the next she growled and snapped at me, and did this to others, too. I ended up having to avoid her entirely. Devastating, to say the least.

We never found out why, despite visits to the vet. Dementia, perhaps.

Are there exceptions? Absolutely.

Exceptions imply that these roles are not strictly inherent to animal (including human) behavior. If colonizing countries weren’t all patriarchal, I’m sure we would’ve seen many more exceptions.

These exceptions exist for a reason, whether or not they fit your personal worldview.

But for most of the existence of the human species, it was just like that - males were taking care of food and protection, while females were doing the “safer” jobs, like childcare of gathering.

This is just a bad argument, and has been used to justify all kinds of awful things. why would the fact that humans have always done things a certain way imply that that’s a good thing? Is slavery a good thing? rape? colonization? genocide?

Rigid gender roles have only truly served half of the human population. Even so, men have also suffered in other ways because of them. Why shouldn’t we work to better everyone’s lives, in as many ways as we can manage?

Yes, biology is complex, but the case of humans is rather clear-cut.

This is demonstrably false. Biologists have known as much for… quite a while. Please consider informing yourself before making claims about important topics.

I don’t necessarily believe that this trait is inherent to humankind; instead, I think it’s a product of cultures that value things like power and hyperindividualism.

I do believe that there will always be (insecure) people who seek some level of power and/or wealth without regard for others. Whether or not they succeed would—I assume—depend on how that society views authority/skepticism/community/ect; if allowed, that would nudge society a little bit in that direction. And so on.

Sadly, , some governments and corporations have spent millenia aquiring and wielding their vast power and wealth to cripple and exploit other societies that they can benefit from without too much pushback. Which obviously ravages those cultures, too, and often by design.

So… it’s a little hard to know for certain what is truly in our nature.

sure, some people would, but the opinions of the kinds of people who’d be judgemental over something as trivial as a goddamn pillow really aren’t worth much imo.

yeah, I’ve been wondering how much I should be sharing about my political opinions now… and a little concerned about my 15+ years of social media history.

do you have nothing better to do than to complain over and over and over again about the posts of a single user?

the block button exists for a reason, if it upsets you this much.

I can definitely understand why someone would feel so nostalgic about them, as a fellow commie. personally, I really enjoyed our mall’s general vibe around Christmastime especially. I associate them with a more carefree time, as well.

As for me, I really miss acting. was in musicals and drama/humor speech competitions all 4 years of high school, and even went to states/nationals for the latter, then acting classes in college. it’s such a satisfying creative outlet for me.

I suppose I could start doing it again now, but the time investment would be so much more significant than it was when I was in school, and I cant help but think that my time would be better spent toward something more “productive”.

also, the daycare I went to as a little kid used to serve us soy sauce flavored ramen with mashed potatoes (including butter/milk). so healthy! 😬 I really loved it, though, as long as the noodles weren’t overcooked. I could go for some now.

yes, but it’s a systemic problem at its root

nice deflect. my actual point still stands, though.

oh look! here’s yet another person who is blabbering about fascism despite the fact that they obviously don’t even know what it is.

Fascism is a far right-wing ideology. Like, literally always. By definition.

TIL posting/having conversations about a characteristic of one country implies that you believe that no other countries have that same characteristic.

While I’m sure the fact that the dominance of US news and culture on the internet is probably really frustrating for non-Americans, it’s pretty natural for Americans (or anyone, really) to talk about our own country and experiences… especially while having to grapple with how things have been escalating here. You’re certainly free to share your own experiences.

The victim complex of so many white people is truly fucking wild.

Are you not already buying food anyway? No one is forcing you to do anything. But people are going to call you out for being so uninterested having an equitable society.

it is still much more difficult for people of color to become professionally successful than it is for white people. That’s a fact. There are still laws in place (and not nearly enough protections), which disproportionately harm POC.

Do they not deserve to be just as successful? To follow their dreams? To be able to support themselves and their families?

Knowing this, why wouldn’t you seek out black-owned business to help counter systemic racism? Those in power in the US, at least, aren’t going to do it. This is by their design.

I care about the well-being of everyone (well, minus the 1% and Nazis), but those who continue to be harmed by a system—that I directly benefit from as a white person—simply require more attention if we’re ever going to have an equitable society.

yes, but did its usage drastically increase because of mass marketing? your comment doesn’t contradict the comment you replied to.

Language Transfer

This was not really a threat and let’s be honest because of the power difference this lady is facing actual jail time

I haven’t even made a single comment thus far about what she said, but I absolutely get why she said it. The fact that she’s facing jail time is absurd.

the worker faces nothing.

What we say to others can and often does have an effect on their mental health. Being forced to sit and take abuse and harassment with no recourse isn’t “nothing”. bffr

As I explained, it is a win if CSR don’t want to work for the company unless they are paid more

That’s not how the real world works, though. The majority of us are forced into our jobs because they need money to exist. Even if they wanted to leave, the job market fucking sucks. Not to mention, a lot of the jobs that exist are at other, equally shitty companies. Not much of a choice there.

Making an obvious statement out of frustration is not berating.

Again, I neither said nor implied that it was. I made it pretty clear that I was responding to this specific statement:

Their frontline workers should take the brunt of what the public feels.

The result of getting “the brunt of what the public feels” inherently includes being berated, insulted, ect. I’m sure you’ve experienced as a CSR; as have I. Countless times.

I mean you are really just siding with the corporation under the guise of protecting the CSR agent.

I’d love to hear you elaborate on this claim. It certainly is an interesting one.

My entire point is that I believe (most) people, CSRs in particular, simply deserve to be treated with respect… even when the conversation is about a problem that upsets you. It’s not exactly a complicated argument; nor is it much to ask for.

Now that I think about it, not even one of my points was actually addressed in your response. Nice try, though!

Their frontline workers should take the brunt of what the public feels.

Yes. That is the job. But the fact that they already take the brunt doesn’t justify anyone screaming/abusing/threatening/ect the CSR.

Sounds like a win to me. Company goes under because no one wants to work for them knowing the public hates them or they will get paid enough they don’t care.

A win for whom? What exactly do you get out of it? Satisfaction? Is it just some kind of flaccid moral victory or something?

If this were actually the case, quite a lot of businesses would’ve gone under a long time ago. Most of them still pay shit wages.

In the meantime, real people are negatively affected by the assholery of customers every single day.

This is not a win for the workers. It’s hard enough being forced to spend most of your life working to make just enough money to scrape by, let alone being screamed at, insulted, condescended to, ect.

But then you can’t access the person who is at fault so there is nothing you can do.

except to berate the CSR, apparently. There’s definitely nooo way to voice one’s concerns while speaking like a respectful, emotionally competant human being.

Wait, what does flipping out on them accomplish again?