• UllallullooA
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    20 hours ago

    I thought it’s widely-agreed that gender dysphoria is a mental illness. The debate lies in how to treat it—try to realign the body with the mind or the mind with the body.

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      2 hours ago

      It may seem like a pedantic difference but you are missing a key part of what’s going on here. Nobody is challenging that gender dysphoria is a bad thing to experience… This policy is saying it’s kosher to proclaim “transness is a mental illness” which means in effect that encompasses gender euphoria and all expressions of gender incongruity as symptoms of a mental illness. It’s a subtle linguistic difference but one makes it possible to publicly derride trans people as being delusional or harmful to people around them or dangers to themselves and push for “curing” all transness by approaching being trans as a failure state.

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      17 hours ago

      Zeezee already has a great reply. I’d also like to add that gender dysphoria isn’t the same as being trans, it’s possible to be trans and not have dysphoria

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      1 day ago

      It depends on the “science of the times.” Crazy concept, I know.

      It’s why psychology is considered a “soft science” and doesn’t deserve the authority that hard sciences have.

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        It’s a crazy concept to apply “science of the times” to only psychology, but not every other branch of science and medicine, as there are huge holes in understanding everywhere.

        I have no idea what sciences would be considered “hard” in this definition.

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          20 hours ago

          Not really. Psychology has a massive reproducibility issue right now.

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              19 hours ago

              Psychology stands out with how many results are not reproducible.

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                15 hours ago

                While in physics, we can fundamentally change our theoretical understanding of very core concepts without impacting the reproducibility of experiments, and any new theory must also satisfy existing, reproducible experiments.

                Same goes for chemistry, computer science, geology, etc. You can discover differences in core, fundamental concepts without invalidating existing experiments.