• WeepingAngel@lemm.ee
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    10 days ago

    Which phone brand is recommendable at the moment? Fairphone uses android, which can hardly be trusted.

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      10 days ago

      Google Pixel + GrapheneOS

      Also, if you think Apple’s completely closed source software is more trustworthy than Google’s mostly open source software… LOL

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        10 days ago

        Well, the point is I do not trust either. I am on apple now, but my experience with android is that there are apps you cannot uninstall.

        On the other hand I have once tried a custom rom, but it was not a great experience. I do think I will need to try this again.

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          Custom ROMs are all different. Some suck, some don’t. I’ve heard very good things about Graphene. You can even install it from the web in a couple clicks.

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      10 days ago

      Yeah, the most “free” option is probably android custom ROMs (anything based on lineageos, I suppose).

      There are alternatives that are slowly building up, such as postmarketos, but it’s not production ready.

      I think KaiOS was a thing for a while, and it’s based on FirefoxOS. But you would have to ditch the confort of a real smartphone and I’m not sure it’s still active?

      EDIT : KaiOS is indeed maintained BUT it is still based on Android (probably with less higher level components)

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      10 days ago

      Fairphone uses their own custom OS to degoogle things and help ensure privacy. I dont think its perfect but its about as good as it gets. Otherwise you can buy a google phone and degoogle it with Graphene

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        Fairphone uses their own custom OS to degoogle things and help ensure privacy

        no they don’t. the default Fairphone OS runs stock Android with all Google apps. there are degoogled custom ROMs available, and you can buy some models with it preinstalled, but those are managed by third party resellers/partners.