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        Unfortunately, Sony seems to be really hostile towards allowing most any video player apps on the PS5. They specifically went out of their way to remove DLNA support, and they only just allowed a DLNA-enabled video player on the store 7 months ago… and it’s subscription based.

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        I am in the same exact boat. The PS5 is the media machine for us upstairs. I would switch to jellyfin if there was a PS5 client. Glad I’m not alone on this.

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    This might be a good time to remind everyone that Jellyfin is open source, free (as in beer) and is, at this point, a better media streamer than Plex. No fees, no ads, no constant pushing of their streaming content, and still has the watch together feature that Plex went and removed.

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      TBH Plex is years ahead on maturity, their dev team is excellent, unfortunately it seems like enshittification has begun for them.

      Support Jellyfin not because it’s better, but because it’s open source and it puts users and tech first. Don’t expect it to beat Plex’s performance, quality, or cross-platform availability yet, but expect it to become better as more people donate or get involved.

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        What’s better, exactly?

        I switched years ago from Plex to Jellyfin, and while the UI wasn’t quite as nice, everything else is better.
        And I don’t have to pay to use HW transcoding on my own hardware…

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          Honestly, I don’t really understand how people prefer the Plex UI to Jellyfin. No shade, it just doesn’t make sense to me. Plex is incredibly cluttered and busy. Jellyfin is simple and clean. I like the latter a lot more.

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            There’s ‘finamp’ for jellyfin which I really like so far.

            I haven’t used plexamp though, so I can’t vouch for it as an alternative.

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              For Android users there’s Symfonium which I find really great

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          The reason I’m not switching yet, is that there’s no federated auth. If they had that, I’d switch in a heartbeat.

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            Simple auth was honestly one of the upsides for me.

            Plex claims to have an offline mode, but I could never got it to work, for some reason.
            And I got pissed off one too many times when my Internet went down and I couldn’t watch anything from the NAS a few meters away…

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            Same here. I have it installed, but I’m resistant to managing other people’s passwords.

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              I had that problem when i first started using jellyfin- I would have to give my users some sort of default login which I couldn’t trust them to actually go and change within jellyfin. And then when someone forgot their password, they’d have to ask me to manually reset their password, and until then they couldn’t use their account.

              My solution was to use the jellyfin LDAP auth plugin with an lldap docker container, so once I set up my users’ accounts, they have to do the password reset process themselves to initially set their password, and the only info I need from them is their preferred username and email address. Makes sure they’re familiar with the password reset process as well, and now if I get any questions/support requests related to passwords, I can simply direct them to the lldap password reset page.

              It also makes it much easier to offer extra services such as mastodon and NextCloud which support LDAP, so users can manage their logins on all platforms from a central place.

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        Its weird how people complain more with the current state of plex compared to if they just required a plex pass for everything.

        My ONLY complaints are that they have new features enabled by default, and that it doesn’t work well if the internet breaks

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      The is just better rhetoric gets a bit frustrating tbh, it’s a great bit of software do not get me wrong, but sure still has a lot of issues with more exotic codecs and various colour space conversions. Among some other tech issues

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        There are 2 types of “free”. Liberty, and price. “Free as in beer” means they mean the price version of the word. It’s a really old saying now.

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          Isn’t this confusing, though? It’s free, as in libre (open-source AND costs no money). “As in beer” implies some sort of restriction.

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    I installed Plex a couple years ago and when I found I actually had to sign into their servers to access my own content it was immediately uninstalled. It was only a matter of time before they pulled this kind of shit.

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      This was my exact experience as well. I’ll never know how Plex compares to Jellyfin because I immediately noped out when I ran into the account creation.

      Frankly baffling to me that anyone with the wherewithal to self host thought that was okay.

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    I have a lifetime Plex pass.

    I tried out Jellyfin last month.

    Now Plex is uninstalled.

    Even if we ignore the differences when it comes to matters of FOSS, cost, corporate control, privacy, etc, Jellyfin’s performance is just so much better.

    Setting it up to run over https while fully self-hosted was a learning process for somebody who isn’t a web dev, but holy crap was it worth it.

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      It’s just not the same. If all you need is local access or tailscale to your instance it’s fine, sure you can cancel Plex. If you’re sharing with friends or family or like the easy access to it that doesn’t require being part of the private network. Also I like subtitles and Plex handles this way better than Jellyfin. At least last time I played with it

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        There were some hoops for me to jump through in order to get secure remote access working for sure. Fortunately for my family that connect remotely, it’s transparent for them and doesn’t require any kind of VPN or tunnel. They just need URL, user, and password.

        And for subtitles I’m not sure what the differences are between the two, but I’ve used them plenty on jellyfin and they seemed to work well and render nicely.

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      I tried Jelly Fin last month based on a thread here and it was a damned dumpster fire. As bad a Plex is for remote streaming, JF is far worse for the average person.

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        In what way? I share my server with 8 friends/family and it does everything I need it to.

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          Unable to set up a working server for outside of the home network. Also, the UI is terrible and didn’t organize things well.

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            Setting up remote access is the same for Plex and Jellyfin so I’m confused. All you need to do is to forward port 8096 or use a reverse proxy like nginx if you want a domain.

            I have plex.domain.com and jellyfin.domain.com and it was the exact same process for both.

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                You have to port forward Plex in some fashion for it to work properly. If you don’t you are limited to 1 Mbps streams on their relay. That is lower bitrate than YouTube at 480p.

                If your router has UPnP then the port fowarding is automatic on both Jellyfin and Plex. It’s the exact same setup for both.

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            i’ve been using http://playit.gg/ to set up a simple proxy that i can share with my friends! You just forward the port that jellyfin uses and share the link (and it works for all manner of other servers)

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              When I tried that service recently I found that it’s incredibly slow. It’s like all the ISPs in the Philippines intentionally throttle it or something. In contrast to that, using Zerotier to connect instead gives me normal speeds.

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          Plex still has more features and is a more mature product. However, the Plex ship is on fire and people should be looking to move away before it sinks.

          Fuck Plex.

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        i’ve been struggling with what i thought was depression/anhedonia for a few years now. after multiple psychiatrists and meds accomplishing nothing i am starting to think i’m chemically just fine; the world is actually going to shit around me.

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          It was my go to dynamic DNS provider for years, but after noticing that it would take a good few seconds for my Jellyfin instance (among all the other stuff I self host) to load, I traced the issue down to duck DNS taking too long to resolve.

          I switched to using ddclient in docker which updates my own domain’s records on Cloud flare with my dynamic IP. Now things load instantly.

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            I didn’t say it wasn’t, but it does not make for an acceptable user experience when you are hosting things for friends and family. Most people expect web services to just work.

            I felt it was worth people knowing before setting it up. Cloudflare is also free and all you have to do is pay yearly for a domain. It also has much better uptime.

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        Possibly a bit annoying for family members used to just logging in though. It’s an extra step.

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      If you don’t mind connecting directly with your IP address, you don’t even have to pay a domain. Been doing this for around 2 years

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      I used to curse and scream at my jellyfin software and apps, now I swear by them.

      I took a day out of my life, not even a full day lol, and just watched countless YouTube videos on how to set it up and how to customize it how I like.

      Now it’s my absolute favorite. I’m learning about building a home server and all that jazz now and I feel nostalgic, like a kid building his first computer lol!

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    New USD prices as of April 29, 2025 will be:

    Monthly: $6.99

    Yearly: $69.99

    Lifetime: $249.99

    Oof I paid $75 in 2013 for lifetime lol.

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      I like how no one is mentioning that they removed the one time fees for their mobile apps to be able to play media at all. Also, only the server owner needs Plex Pass and anyone they share with can stream for free.

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        They are removing it to make money from a subscription instead. You’re making it sound like they are doing something good!

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          Before everyone had to pay for the apps. Im not saying this change is good but it’s also not all bad.

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            How do you work that out?

            I paid for the app so that I can play media on the go. Now that payment meant nothing and now they want me to pay a monthly fee instead.

            Anyone new to Plex who doesn’t want a subscription can only play media when they are at home. Whereas before it was a one time payment.

            Jellyfin is the future. Plex is dead to me.

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        How so? My friends need to use my account or else they need to pay to watch my movie? Did that change?

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      The US$75 Lifetime price has traditionally been their Black Friday deal, regardless of the usual price.

      Anyone’s guess if that deal will still be a thing, given their recent behaviour, though.

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    So the media that I host is now no longer streamable when I am outside my home network? The fuck?

    That’s my server, my bandwidth, my electricity and they are blocking it?

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      That’s enshittification for ya.

      Meanwhile, all “lifetime pass” holders are encouraging this, while they have no skin in the game.

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        Anyone investing in a lifetime pass because of these changes is really making a really bad decision. Plex is not going to get better. These shitty decisions will keep coming and eventually it will be something that affects the lifetime users.

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          I got one a very long time ago, when it was cheap and seemed like a good investment in an up-and-coming ecosystem. It’s worked out for me, but I wouldn’t recommend it for anyone else, at this point.

          I’m just waiting for them to find a way to reneg on the pass and then I’m off to Jellyfin like everyone else.

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            Yeah, one reason I hate lifetime anything, they’ll change the rules and give you the middle finger and they’ve already got your money so you can’t do shit about it, lost cause.

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              They dont have to renege on anything. Just create a new variant, an let the original stsgnate. 5 years is an eternity in tech, so if an app is not updated in 5 years, it will be pretty useless.

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        I’m not encouraging this at all. I’ve got a library of 5600 movies, 300 series, 300k songs I share with family. I have a lifetime pass I got last year, family doesn’t need anything, apps stream free on TV’s and browsers, only mobile had a few $ attached to it, which you can bypass using the browser. They all use tv/computer anyway.

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    I paid for a lifetime membership to Plex in 2012–$75. I stopped using it around 2015, mostly because I hated that I didn’t have access to software running on my server, meant to serve my media, without an internet connection. I knew that meant worse was coming in the future.

    I don’t regret switching to Jellyfin.

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      You can access locally when the internet is down. You just need to set the login bypass for the local network. IMO it’s kinda a stupid step needed in setup but it is available.

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    Jellyfin is so much better anyway. I used plex for years and it has steadily enshitified.

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      Honestly I’ve tried jellyfin and I have a hard time agreeing with this for a few reasons:

      • UI generally more unresponsive than Plex;
      • changes to correct a show/movie being assigned the wrong show/movie metadata very slow to propagate if at all, same for changing other library options like title language preference;
      • generally slower to buffer and get into videos;
      • very rough android lollipop UI;
      • not as easy to set up tech illiterate friends for play together.

      I’ll give you that morally jellyfin is less customer-adverse than Plex management is at the moment and it is more open in some ways so you can have more plugins and add-ons that Plex lacks, and sure it’s a free product so it should be given some leeway.

      … but if I just listened to all of the people saying jellyfin is just so much better I’d think it was an objectively better offering, but it’s not. When it comes to what I care about, it fell short, so just giving my 2 cents. Still worth trying, considering you can just point it to the same media folders, and maybe there’s a good proposition if you don’t already have a Plex pass, but if you do and you’re looking to migrate it’s a tougher sell.

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        Thats fair. I haven’t really noticed any of those issues. For my use case of just organizing and streaming my desktop’s media library to my TV, its fantastic.

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          Oh don’t get me wrong it does the job and if I didn’t already have a lifetime Plex pass I’d highly consider it over Plex for being free, I just don’t think it does it better than Plex (with a Plex pass)

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        i’ve had none of those issues and i’ve been a jellyfin user for the past 5 years or so, but I do use containers for the server.

        Android client is not great, but there are alternatives like Findroid, which is pretty great.

        Last point is literally a couple of clicks. You just need to understand what libraries are and how to add them.

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        I used Plex before I got tired of it requiring a remote network connection to work in my home network (no remote). I switched to emby a few years ago, and I’m tired of it too: Subtitle is a pain, filtering is a nightmare, integration with sonarr/radarr and configuration is annoying…

        I’ve started developing my own streaming server, playback is working nice through the browser from server to tvlaptop. I’m going to integrate Transmission UI into it, and show/movie management, to get rid of sonnarr/radarr and maybe I’ll manage to get rid of jackett too, so tired of this cumbersome stack. I want it all integrated into a single server with a single interface.

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      Agreed. Started out in Plex when j knew nothing about self hosting, very quickly made the switch to Jellyfin and haven’t looked back. If I’m hosting my media, storing it locally, and running my own server, I’m much better off not integrating the software of some company that feels entitled to bleed some extra revenue from me.

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    I run jellyfin in a container and it is amazing. Give it a try.

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      I’ve found it hogs a bit of resources so I shut mine off until Plex crossed a line

      Looks like that day came sooner than I expected

      What run command did you use? Any resource constraints?

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        I just run it in default config basically. To be honest it’s just the normal docker container I hadn’t noticed any crazy resource usage but then in not able to compare that to Plex itself.

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    Well, sounds like I have six weeks to spin up Jellyfin side-by-side with Plex to see if I can get away with not paying the $120 ransom…