repost, but it’s been a while

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    This is the all-time most succinct encapsulation of libertarian thought - giving the government power by voting is tyranny, but random people getting it as a side-effect of money is Freedom.

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      Yeah, the last 6 months has really shown what Libertarians are made of. Fucking disgusting hypocrites.

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        They’ve always been that way. Its not surprising the “we need to be more selfish” crew isn’t standing up for anyone

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    Always thought libertarians didn’t watch nearly enough 90s anime. So much of it was evil corporations and Cyberpunk about evil corporations.

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      They saw “Look at all the cool technology capitalism is going to bring us!” instead of “Holy shit capitalism will use this amazing technology to make everything worse”.

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        “Robot arms!”

        Because they lost their limbs in an avoidable industrial mining accident because safety was too expensive.

        “But look at ‘em!”

        Bruh.

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      I too grew up in an age of movies like Star Wars fighting an overtly fascist empire, of Indiana Jones killing nazis, of countless kid’s shows and cartoons emphasizing values like being accepting and not judging people by appearances, of shows like Star Trek explaining the complexity of human societies and using aliens to relay messages of understanding and empathy with others, of science and educational shows like everything on PBS… I thought FOR SURE that these lessons being seen by everyone would lead to a brighter future of mutual compassion and understanding between people.

      Holy shit was I wrong. People didn’t watch ANY of that shit, and if they did, they didn’t think about it, and certainly didn’t take any lessons from it. A vast majority of media-consumers don’t engage with their entertainment I’ve learned, they just experience it and move on without any attempt at making mental effort. Even the lightest mental effort is too much for most people. I’m literally shocked we have the society we do knowing now exactly how ignorant most people are.

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        Its a bit deeper and more surreal than that. Growing up politicians had to pretend to not be villians. We voted based on the best showman. If you couldn’t sell your lies, you didn’t get the vote. Now it feels like people vote for who can be the most like a scooby-do villain. I don’t understand how people don’t find that infuriatingly insulting. These people talk to the public with blatant contept, constantly treating their constituents like they’re stupid. It is so fucking blatant! Then I realize people don’t know when they’re being insulted. It’s insane how utterly oblivious people are.

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          It’s part of the “nothing ever happens” generation desperate to have a narrative to follow. If they’re going to feel disengaged and disconnected from how complicated politics has become in an increasingly complicated world… WELL MIGHT AS WELL DUMB THIS SHIT BACK DOWN, OOHRAH WWE WRESTLEMANIA YEAH BROTHA ACTION

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      Weak minded people are easy to exploit

      In other words the people supporting this shit are idiots who have no critical thinking skills.

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        Get ready for a full generation of weak minded morons now that the Dept. Of Education is gone. It can always get worse.

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          And it will get worse. It’s been getting worse. Orange dick is just an additional progression of it all.

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            Maybe not yet. But that is the ultimate goal. That’s not even a slippery slope fallacy. Poor people don’t need an education, let them start working when old enough for school. These are goals they are working towards little by little. If you don’t know that you are not paying attention. You are just hearing what is said by known liars and believing it for every little step until the goal is met.

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                Just move huh? Just change the government? Simple. I’m sure no state will defy the constitution regarding education. And all states will care about all students and listen to local school boards. Local boards are even smaller and not need the state then. It’s great that it’s all about making things better for all and being more efficient. Sure, that’s the only reason for this. Maybe states should just become their own country, or change the federal government if they don’t like it instead of eliminating it.

                I bet you believe abortion is about “states rights” too. I’m sure it’s all decided now and no need to push for a federal ban. Nobody is pushing for that I’m sure. lol. Do you believe that abortion is only about abortion even?

                It’s not even worth typing out all the ways your whole statement Is silly. Anyone with even a partial brain can see what the end goals have always been. And when given a chance, what they have and will do with the power. And yet people like you just push the absolute dumbest narrative you can and somehow believe it.

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                The problem with this is that there ends up being no national education standard. You take a state like Alabama, which ranks dead last in so many education metrics, and remove those federal standards. Now Alabama can just change their state standards, and suddenly they have a 100% graduation rate with all straight A students. Guess what happens when Cletus the Alabama valedictorian tries to get a job in the medical field or the tech sector.

                And that’s before we ever even talk about funding. States get about 15% of their K-12 funding from the federal government. Where are the states going to make up that difference? Higher state taxes? Higher property taxes? Or are they just going to let already struggling schools go to shit? Guess who that affects the most?

                You really haven’t put a lot of thought into this beyond “federal gubmint bad”.

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        Yeah, I think it was Matt Walsh that literally made the argument that the government banning porn is wrong and authoritarian but that porn should be banned by all the private companies.

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    Fun etymological fact: very long ago, tyranny used to refer to an autocratic leader that issued a debt jubilee, generally in response to a peasant uprising. A debt jubilee is where most or all debts are declared invalid, a clean debt slate for society, and was generally necessary to keep society functioning. The mini revolution that appointed the tyrant would be short-lived and the prior systen would more or less remain in place, just with cancelled debts.

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      Can you imagine the anguished cries of the parasite classes?

      Truly, it would be music like no other.

      Sure, it won’t solve anything in the long term, but fuck me, a global debt reset would be hilarious. Landlords and banks, zeroed overnight.

      Damn. There’s a thought experiment.

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    “If anyone says they’re a libertarian, I just shrug and leave.” - Atlas In His Own Words