Americans (especially non white Americans) tend to speak very frankly about race in a way that can make Europeans uncomfortable. In this context “white” is simply meant to conjure an image of someone with disposable income.
The joke is that white people are so pampered they have to find absolutely insane sounding activities to have fun, like throwing yourself out of perfectly good airplanes, diving in caves, or walking the longest road on earth.
And to do so relatively cluelessly with the optimism that it will all work out fine because American, white, and money. Instagramming selfies with their kidnappers kinda thing.
They are all hazardous to your health. Never said they were bad. I dunno. I don’t do any of them, except I threw myself out of perfectly good planes in the military and there were plenty of not white people there.
racism requires a power structure to be historically against the oppressed. you cannot be racist against white people. you can be prejudiced, and I suppose you could make some argument that the above is prejudiced if you tried really hard, but calling it racism disregards the basis of what racism is
edit: for people down voting, please go read some books, take a class from your local community college, or just talk to your neighbors. this statement isn’t meant to be decisive, nor would it be in any race and diversity class.
Racism is prejudice based on race. The addition of a power structure was added to make racism against Whites more palatable. It’s a mix of denial and rationalization. And it’s racist as hell.
Edit: I assume you also think it’s impossible to be sexist against men? Or heterophobic against straight people? All this is is an attempt to whitewash racism against people who look like the people doing the oppressing. It’s a generalization based on race, which is—by definition—racist. Why not direct your anger at the incredibly tiny group of people actually creating the power structures of the world, rather than funneling it into useless and hypocritical counter-racism?
your neighbor may not have individual power, but his statements still carry more weight than the opposite. there’s a reason (most) white people would never dream of saying the n word, and that there’s no equivalent for the other way around, and it’s because there’s an inherent power dynamic baked into that word and its origins
I agree with you, but I’m not arguing about the relative weight/ power/emotional damage etc. of one racist word against another. Those words are still racist independently of who holds the power.
That’s like saying using deadly violence in self defense isn’t killing because it’s self defense, not attacking. But it is still killing, just a form that’s treated differently.
So if a white person says “I hate all black people because they are black”, that’s racist. But if a black person says “I hate all white people because they are white”, that’s just prejudiced and somehow not as bad? Sounds to me like you might be racist.
Except you’ve confused the definition from common use to sociological use, you’d understand the difference if you hadn’t stopped before critical thinking
We’re not uncomfortable, we’re baffled at your fixation on race, and on skin colour specifically. In European countries, generally, mostly, there is no this weird racial tribalism. Some people are racist, for sure, and a bunch of institutional racism is still a thing, but it’s a bad thing and we understand it in this context.
I think it has to do with the very high number of “van life” vloggers who overwhelmingly seem to be white American couples.
Google van life vloggers and take a look at the image results.
after living in the US for some time i think i’m starting to get it…
one thing about the life in the US that the hollywood movies don’t show you very well is that the country is extremely tribal. the stories of diversity or of outsiders building their american dream are almost pure fantasy - you don’t make it in america because of the environment but in spite of it.
the way things work here is that you have to be a part of a group and you habe to stick with that group no matter what. because otherwise you are done. that’s why it is so hard for either democrats or republicans to admit when their politicians do even the most insane shit. that’s why people would rarher risk their kids lives rather than go against their peer group and vaccinate them. and that’s also why it is so important that the couple is “white” and not black, latino or (god forbid) mixed…
racism, xenofobia, nationalism and mysoginy are just side effects of a society that is split into constantly competing groups that reserve all the benefits for their own members… constant positive and negative discrimination that forces everyone to fall in or be left behind and that is stoked by any entity interested in exploiting those fragmented groups more easily.
USA definitely is tribal but I have to say that Democrats do things when their politicians do something crazy. They resign over stuff that a Republican would just ignore. The Democrats have their issues but policing behavior isn’t one of them.
Unless it’s tied to capital and power then senile people can rule even if that is in fact insane.
I really don’t understand Americans and their racial stuff. Why white?
Americans (especially non white Americans) tend to speak very frankly about race in a way that can make Europeans uncomfortable. In this context “white” is simply meant to conjure an image of someone with disposable income.
(See “black twitter”)
It still just sounds racist to me. The joke is that black people are poor?
The joke is that white people are so pampered they have to find absolutely insane sounding activities to have fun, like throwing yourself out of perfectly good airplanes, diving in caves, or walking the longest road on earth.
And to do so relatively cluelessly with the optimism that it will all work out fine because American, white, and money. Instagramming selfies with their kidnappers kinda thing.
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Those things sound fun, why are they bad? Do non white people not do those activities?
They are all hazardous to your health. Never said they were bad. I dunno. I don’t do any of them, except I threw myself out of perfectly good planes in the military and there were plenty of not white people there.
That’s the difference between paying to jump out of a plane vs being paid to jump out of a plane
I absolutely did not get that from this post.
It is racist. White people are the only people it’s politically acceptable to be racist about.
racism requires a power structure to be historically against the oppressed. you cannot be racist against white people. you can be prejudiced, and I suppose you could make some argument that the above is prejudiced if you tried really hard, but calling it racism disregards the basis of what racism is
edit: for people down voting, please go read some books, take a class from your local community college, or just talk to your neighbors. this statement isn’t meant to be decisive, nor would it be in any race and diversity class.
Racism is prejudice based on race. The addition of a power structure was added to make racism against Whites more palatable. It’s a mix of denial and rationalization. And it’s racist as hell.
Edit: I assume you also think it’s impossible to be sexist against men? Or heterophobic against straight people? All this is is an attempt to whitewash racism against people who look like the people doing the oppressing. It’s a generalization based on race, which is—by definition—racist. Why not direct your anger at the incredibly tiny group of people actually creating the power structures of the world, rather than funneling it into useless and hypocritical counter-racism?
Prejudice is a broader term that include race among other factors.
Power is not necessary to be racist. My neighbor is super racist but has absolutely no power.
Power is part of the equation as a multipier. It creates greater negative impact.
your neighbor may not have individual power, but his statements still carry more weight than the opposite. there’s a reason (most) white people would never dream of saying the n word, and that there’s no equivalent for the other way around, and it’s because there’s an inherent power dynamic baked into that word and its origins
I agree with you, but I’m not arguing about the relative weight/ power/emotional damage etc. of one racist word against another. Those words are still racist independently of who holds the power.
You are projecting an insane amount, and you can be racist against any group of people. And you made yourself sound racist af.
Do you not know about Nazi Germany? Miss that part in school? And you are telling others to read books?
That’s like saying using deadly violence in self defense isn’t killing because it’s self defense, not attacking. But it is still killing, just a form that’s treated differently.
So if a white person says “I hate all black people because they are black”, that’s racist. But if a black person says “I hate all white people because they are white”, that’s just prejudiced and somehow not as bad? Sounds to me like you might be racist.
Except you’ve confused the definition from common use to sociological use, you’d understand the difference if you hadn’t stopped before critical thinking
Fuck off with that academic bullshit.
We’re not uncomfortable, we’re baffled at your fixation on race, and on skin colour specifically. In European countries, generally, mostly, there is no this weird racial tribalism. Some people are racist, for sure, and a bunch of institutional racism is still a thing, but it’s a bad thing and we understand it in this context.
I think it has to do with the very high number of “van life” vloggers who overwhelmingly seem to be white American couples. Google van life vloggers and take a look at the image results.
Most of which probably park that van in their 5-car garage between shoots. 😂
Yeah that sounds about right.
after living in the US for some time i think i’m starting to get it…
one thing about the life in the US that the hollywood movies don’t show you very well is that the country is extremely tribal. the stories of diversity or of outsiders building their american dream are almost pure fantasy - you don’t make it in america because of the environment but in spite of it.
the way things work here is that you have to be a part of a group and you habe to stick with that group no matter what. because otherwise you are done. that’s why it is so hard for either democrats or republicans to admit when their politicians do even the most insane shit. that’s why people would rarher risk their kids lives rather than go against their peer group and vaccinate them. and that’s also why it is so important that the couple is “white” and not black, latino or (god forbid) mixed…
racism, xenofobia, nationalism and mysoginy are just side effects of a society that is split into constantly competing groups that reserve all the benefits for their own members… constant positive and negative discrimination that forces everyone to fall in or be left behind and that is stoked by any entity interested in exploiting those fragmented groups more easily.
USA definitely is tribal but I have to say that Democrats do things when their politicians do something crazy. They resign over stuff that a Republican would just ignore. The Democrats have their issues but policing behavior isn’t one of them.
Unless it’s tied to capital and power then senile people can rule even if that is in fact insane.
Their society is so fixated into that that is haunting. I can’t imagine the histeria that a “PoC” has to endure.
as if white supremacy and racial strife originated in america
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Because whoever wrote that is a racist.