2024 was “a year of growth,” according to fire-suppression company Fire Rover, but that’s not an entirely good thing.

The company, which offers fire detection and suppression systems based on thermal and optical imaging, smoke analytics, and human verification, releases annual reports on waste and recycling facility fires in the US and Canada to select industry and media. In 2024, Fire Rover, based on its fire identifications, saw 2,910 incidents, a 60 percent increase from the 1,809 in 2023, and more than double the 1,409 fires confirmed in 2022.

Publicly reported fire incidents at waste and recycling facilities also hit 398, a new high since Fire Rover began compiling its report eight years ago, when that number was closer to 275.

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      Exact same thought. People want to blame vapes because it’s an easy target, and I’m inclined to join them to be honest, but these batteries are in so many fucking disposable things

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      They literally only exist because of all the government regulations that decimated the industry “because of the children.”

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        Not exactly. Toy-shaped non-nicotine fruit-flavored cheap disposables, are the best thing to get children hooked up on vaping.

        Tobacco companies used to promote candy cigarettes for the same purpose.

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          This is literally the argument they used and it’s complete bullshit propaganda. Can you elaborate in detail on what makes it “toy shaped?” Do you consume fruit and or fruit-flavored things as an adult? I’m surprised you didn’t also mention “bright colors” as another draw being so appealing to children as well. I guess I never got the memo as an adult that I should only be consuming and enjoying drab colored, unflavored oatmeal for all my meals as color and flavor are no longer appealing to me.

          I suppose I should be forced to smoke cancer-causing cigarettes produced by big tobacco for my crime of enjoying nicotine and flavors as an adult all so some shitty parents can be absolved of their duty as parents. While we’re at it let’s also ban things like D&D and rock music because those lure children into worshipping the devil which leads to things like talking back and human sacrifice.

          Maybe after we ban everything dangerous, we can take our children to McDonalds to buy them an artery clogging cheeseburger happy meal and a large coke to celebrate before dropping them back off in front of the TV, so they can watch their commercials interfaced with the occasional colorful cartoon while they play with their happy meal toy and we go back to not giving a shit about them.

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            Can you elaborate in detail on what makes it “toy shaped?”

            If you didn’t get the memo about marketing targeting, there are courses for that. You can drop the sarcasm.

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              How convenient that none of the manufacturer or product names are listed for any of these devices except the “Moti Pop” which appears to be a black market disposable from China. It’s almost as if someone just fabricated a bunch of items or cherry picked a bunch of already illegal devices in order to push the FUD angle. Can you provide any listings or images showing that any of these were ever sold in a vape shop anywhere in the western world because I’ve been vaping for 13 years now and have never once seen anything even remotely resembling anything like these sold in any store. It’s just more bullshit propaganda.

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                You call it “bullshit propaganda”, because you haven’t seen black market disposables from China advertised at you local vape shop? Have you considered that, maybe, you haven’t seen them… precisely because they were stopped at customs?

                No, I’m not even going to look for a SKU listing, just for your dismissal. Go believe it’s FUD if that makes you happier. Ask your government agencies to lift all bans, for extra un-FUDding.

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                  You aren’t going to look for them because you just grabbed whatever image you found from a Google search and have no clue what you’re even talking about.

                  If these even exist, the only reason why a black market would exist for vapes is because of the idiotic bans that created it by killing the legitimate market further proving my point. Furthermore your argument that they’re “stopped at customs” contradicts your previous argument that they’re being marketed and sold to kids since they aren’t being sold at all.

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      I’m pretty sure they technically are but no one cares enough to stop their sale. Obama banned “vape flavorings targeting children” which all of them seem to be. I’ve only seen them for sale in vape/tobacco shops. Places that get regulated, like gas stations, aren’t carrying them. At least around where I am in the USA.

      Edit. Doing further research… I guess they didn’t?

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        I mean… Those are the source of the problem in other countries. Take the addictive active compound away and people will stop using it

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          Kind of. Personally, I started using them precisely because I can be reasonably sure that I’d get some without nicotine. My favorite active compound is menthol and “cool effect”, with other flavors from time to time.

          Used to be an “After Eight” chocolate fan, but a vape juice bottle plus any random chocolate, is way cheaper.

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    Why not use capacitors instead of lithium? Sure they won’t hold a charge nearly as long, but they also charge in a fraction of the time too.

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    I switched from cigarettes to vaping in 2016 – after trying and failing multiple times through an eGo stage – once box mods had evolved to the point of being reliable and delivering a satisfying hit. That mod worked until 2023.

    I’ve since had three fail, and you don’t want to spend $100 (when it’s not Black Friday and your mod dies, that’s the going rate at local vape shops, since I guess the margin on a single-18650 mod isn’t good enough) to be able to use your remaining $12 of juice when a disposable that lasts for a few weeks runs $20.

    As such, I’ve been using disposables for several months now. I don’t like this transition given the waste and danger involved, but nicotine addiction is a bitch.

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      I’ve been vaping since around 2012 and ran through a ton of disappointing eGo clones and mods and got a GeekVape Zeus about a year or two ago and it’s been rock solid. It is a dual battery but that just means it lasts a day or more depending on how often you’re using it.