I have several services on my home server, most of which I access using Tailscale, and it works great. I had a couple services on Cloudflare tunnels in order to access them from devices that I can’t put Tailscale on.
Plex is going to start charging for remote access. So I figured now would be the time to migrate to Jellyfin. But using Jellyfin on Cloudflare tunnels is against their TOS. I have a Roku TV at a remote location that I use to watch Plex. I won’t be able to do that anymore. And I can’t put Tailscale on it to serve Jellyfin that way.
I was going to set up Nginx Proxy Manager to use my domain name for Jellyfin so I didn’t have to use Cloudflare tunnels. But in setting that up I found out that my ISP is double NATting me, and I haven’t been able to find a way around it.
So I’m left with two options: 1) buy Plex Pass so I can continue to stream remotely; or 2) get a VPS, run Tailscale and NPM on it and switch to Jellyfin.
I’m looking for a sanity check to make sure the VPS thing would work the way I think it would. If it’s running Tailscale then the double NAT would be a non-issue, correct? Is there another option that I haven’t thought of yet? Which of the two options would you choose?
Maybe something worth a shot is a direct Wireguard server/client connection. While I don’t know how it works with double NAT (wireguard client with double nat) making your home server act as a direct tunnel would solve all your issues.
- Access your services from everywhere without middleman.
IIR, tailscale uses wireguard under the hood and you’re already hosting things on your home server, so maybe this could be worth a try :) !
I was just in your exact Situation with my Jellyfin home server. I was using Tailscale for a while, but ran into a problem: my new server is really bad at encoding, so I can only use direct play, which uses more bandwidth than the tail scale relay servers can give.
The problem with tail scale is, I basically only ever use the relay servers because my home is cgnat and most of the time when I want to stream outside of home I am on mobile data with cgnat or at college (restrictive firewall).
My solution which I implemented last weekend was to buy the cheapest VPS I could get from my trusted provider and harden it and install nginx proxy manager and tailscale. With that, I can make a direct (no relay server) connection to my home server and proxy Jellyfin to a public domain.
I am still figuring out how to secure Jellyfin, but I have also seen some comments that Jellyfin is secure by default and therefore ok to have exposed.Actually no, it is insecure, do not expose it to the internet. I will be adding separate authentication to access it via proxy.
Do not. I repeat do not expose Jellyfin to the internet. It has too many security issues to be directly accessible from the internet.
I use Jellyfin and only access it over WireGuard. I have a mesh setup between the routers at a few family members houses.
If you have absolutely no other way then to expose it to the internet you need to make sure that you whitelist only the approved IPs in your VPS firewall and block everything else.
you can add authentic/authelia with keys for login and it should be fine
I don’t really agree with you here. If you take the time to set things up properly. And prepare for IF something would happen. Your fine. Been running a exposed jellyfin server for years now. Never hat a security issue. And even if I would, not much harm could be done anyway due to how it is setup.
Have you even looked at what you are posting? Most of those are fixed. And most are who cares.
Thanks for mentioning that. I’ll have to look into it. If I could install Tailscale on a RokuTV I’d absolutely run it that way.
I haven’t seen no one mention it yet but you could simply buy a Rasp Pi and use it as a subnet router for your Tailnet.
It’s how I set up a family members Jellyfin/NAS/etc which I can access all their devices by local IP address, and you could do for your Roku too?
No worries. Better than reading that someone got hacked because they left Jellyfin wide open
You could even run a travel router, mini PC or Raspberry Pi, run the VPN on it, connect the Roku to it over the onboard WiFi adapter. On the PC/Pi you’d force all the traffic from the Roku towards Jellyfin over the tunnel. You could even define the Jellyfin in DNS (/etc/hosts) so the internet will never even know you’re running Jellyfin. Something like https://raspap.com/ or even a openwrt travel router from the likes of GL.iNet would work.
get a VPS, run Tailscale and NPM on it and switch to Jellyfin
Keep in mind that VPSs will charge for bandwidth, which adds up quickly when you’re streaming.
One suggestion I haven’t seen mentioned is contacting your ISP. Sometimes you can get a dedicated IP, although you might have to pay for it.
Alternatively you might just break down and pay for Plex Pass. I know that goes against the Lemmy philosophy to the very core, but for all its issues, Plex is still way ahead of Jellyfin in terms of features, UI/UX, etc. Jellyfin will get there, and I’m ready to switch the day that Plex becomes unusable, but that hasn’t happened yet.
Wasn’t it brought up last week ina thread about Plex charging that it is NOT against cloudflare TOS anymore?
https://blog.cloudflare.com/updated-tos/
Finally, we made it clear that customers can serve video and other large files using the CDN so long as that content is hosted by a Cloudflare service like Stream, Images, or R2.
Tailscale funnel is a vqlid option too
