• finder@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    if it was you wouldn’t be looking for ways to excuse some of the Genociders-

    My man, you are making excuses for the Russian Federation, who are currently genociding Ukrainian’s along with other Russian minority groups.

    Why?

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      2 days ago

      If that’s your take on my words, you either haven’t read my other comments here or you’re just another mindless tribalist clapping at anything that aligns with you views without even the slightest bit of analysis and viewing the world as “if you’re not with us, you’re against us”, just like the MAGA crowd does.

      The UK is the worst possible country to make such a suggestion because their actual actions in other, similar situations happening right now, are the very opposite of the principles they claim to want to uphold here - the people with fresh children’s blood on their hands aren’t the ones best suited to convince the World of the need for Justice.

      The British politicians are de facto worsening the chances for Justice for Ukrainians (not even just Palestinians, whom they’re actually helping murder in large numbers) because the leaders and even the people in most nations in the World do not believe their haughty words demanding “Justice” while their hands are dripping with the blood of innocents, are anything other than a geopolitical powerplay and propaganda: they’re making it less likely that the World outside the West gets together with the West to make sure Putin and his cronies get the punishment they deserve.

      This New Nuremberg idea would be far more likely to succeed if this suggestion came from a country like Spain or the Republic Of Ireland who have been Fair and Just in the matter of Genocide, and not involve Britain in any way form or shape, than coming from or involving Britain, where the concept of “Justice” is so flexible that the race of the Genociders and their victims means that the “We must have a trial like Nuremberg” (which, by the way, should be done for both cases) is only for some Genocides whilst “We must continue to ship weapons [to the Genociders]” is for other Genociders, depending on the ethnicity of them and their victims.

      You are the one supporting the people who for petty political propaganda gains just had to go and parade themselves as the voice of the Justice Of The West whilst their actions say the very opposite, thus damaging things like International Rule Of Law and the West’s voice on this by entrenching the idea that the reactions of the West are all hypocrisy (which they’re not in many Western countries, but definitely are in Britain).

      Only somebody motivated by British Nationalism and/or deeply brainwashed by the Press Environment in Britain (which is as bad as in the US) would think the UK is in any way form or shape a trusted spokesperson for the rest of the World on International Law and Justice Against Genociders, and that their hypocrite proclamations on this would inspire the World to come together for Justice and advance that cause.

      Like a run of the mill sociopaths, for petty political point scoring and for the sake of doing a bit of a “we matter in the World” performance for internal consumption, these assholes are damaging the very thing they claim to defend.

      If British politicians really wanted this that they’re now suggesting to happen, they would’ve had some backroom discussions with other Western nations and gotten a more trustworthy country (which is not right now actively supporting a different Genocide) to voice this suggestion, only they didn’t because this was never about Justice against Genociders or Humanitarianism.